Cindy, i like your theory that the Oscar is the murder weapon and Lilly snagged it as well as the tapes when she left the Echolls poolhouse. it works for me. because really, how else can they explain her blood being present?
Giles: Stop that, you two. Riley: He started it... Xander: He called me a bad name! I think
it was bad; it might have been Latin.
'Selfless'
Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.
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tiggy - Apr 20, 2006 10:24:29 am PDT #2435 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
Topic!Cindy - Apr 20, 2006 10:32:26 am PDT #2436 of 5730
What is even happening?
It's the only way I can get Lilly's blood on the Oscar. I'm assuming the murder took place at the Kane house, because...
- There'd be an awful lot to being a famous movie star and moving the dead body of a young woman, undetected
- There is video of Lilly driving, which figured into the investigation last year
If so, we have to get the Oscar to the Kane home. It works for me, as Aaron might even have noticed that the Oscar went missing, before he noticed the tapes went missing. We don't have to take last year's flashbacks as truth--just as the way in which Veronica pieced it all together.
Honestly? I can't figure out how they can i.d. Duncan's hair. Did he ever give any sort of DNA sample in the Lilly investigation, in season 1 or S1 flashbacks? All I can remember from season 1 is how determined his folks had been to cover his involvement, so I can't imagine they ever let such a thing happen, but I could just be forgetting.
sumi - Apr 20, 2006 10:41:04 am PDT #2437 of 5730
Art Crawl!!!
Well, they can id Logan's hair and figure that the hair that isn't Logan's is Duncan's, right?
Then they see if it matches the blood on the Oscar.
Calli - Apr 20, 2006 10:51:15 am PDT #2438 of 5730
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
Honestly? I can't figure out how they can i.d. Duncan's hair. Did he ever give any sort of DNA sample in the Lilly investigation, in season 1 or S1 flashbacks?
I suppose it's possible that his mom gave some hair off a brush or suchlike to help the investigation when he took off with his baby.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 20, 2006 11:03:03 am PDT #2439 of 5730
What is even happening?
Well, they can id Logan's hair and figure that the hair that isn't Logan's is Duncan's, right?
But it's been X amount of time since Duncan left, so who is to say whose hair is in that shower? Were Logan to maintain he hasn't used that shower or prove it isn't his hair, then who is to say it isn't from a previous guest, rather than from Duncan? I mean if cleaning didn't remove Duncan's hair X amount of time, why would it remove an old guest's hair in Y amount of time?
I don't like it, mostly. Maybe Duncan gave blood for a paternity battle he then decided against waging, and they have matched the hair DNA to that. It still feels clunky.
eta...
Or what Calli said, but I still don't like how they did it.
Jon B. - Apr 20, 2006 11:18:35 am PDT #2440 of 5730
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
I think Duncan had a private shower (master bath) off of his bedroom.
esse - Apr 20, 2006 11:36:42 am PDT #2441 of 5730
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
In which episode does Kendall meet Aaron? I missed that.
Polter-Cow - Apr 20, 2006 11:43:54 am PDT #2442 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Episode 15, "The Quick and the Wed."
Nutty - Apr 20, 2006 11:54:25 am PDT #2443 of 5730
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Of course, they have the various genetically-rich fluids of Duncan's full sister in a lab someplace. By a process of elimination, since the Kanes had only two children that we know of, the XY-gene hairs that share an awful lot of genetic markers with Lilly are gonna belong to Duncan.
Also, once upon a time, Duncan was at the scene when the crime went down. Although they might not have stood him up and said, "Genetic sample! Now!" they might have snagged a coffee cup or kleenex or towel he'd used, just on the off chance.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 20, 2006 11:58:20 am PDT #2444 of 5730
What is even happening?
I think Duncan had a private shower (master bath) off of his bedroom.Yes, he did. I think all the pictures of him and Veronica that were visible when Kendall entered it were meant to reinforce that (and it was totally implied when Kendall tried to hit on Duncan, anyhow).
My only point about the shower was, just saying, "Oh it isn't Logan's hair so it must be Duncan's" can't cut it for me, because if we're to believe Duncan's hair is still in a hotel drain after all this time, then I have no problem believing a previous guest's hair is there, either, or that someone else hasn't used the shower, or that a cleaning person didn't lose some hair in there, etc.
Let me start again.
I just didn't like that they just discovered the Oscar, managed to find the hair on it (planted or not) AND were able to prove it belonged to Duncan Kane who seemingly (as far as we know) couldn't be arsed to get a DNA test to prove his paternity, and so decided kidnapping was a better route.
I accept it. I just don't think it was particularly well done.