I pretty much agree with everyone who was meh on this episode.
At least until Wallace showed up, which made me ridiculously happy. Then Alias, The Daily Show and Colbert all rocked, so a good night of TV all in all.
Can I mop your brow? I am at the ready with the fearsome brow-mop.
Wash ,'Objects In Space'
Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.
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Frankenbuddha - Dec 08, 2005 4:37:29 am PST #1448 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Tom Scola - Dec 08, 2005 4:57:13 am PST #1449 of 5730
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Has anyone noticed how hard they're trying this season to *not* make this a high school show?
Except for the season opener, where Veronica tracks down who screwed up Wallace's drug test, and the episode where Jackie was playing Veronica, none of the episodes this season follow last year's format, where a random high school student asks Veronica to solve a mystery for them.
Topic!Cindy - Dec 08, 2005 5:12:18 am PST #1450 of 5730
What is even happening?
The possibility of violent outbursts was, I guess, supposed to make him a little more interesting, but now that he's (I assume) taking his meds, he's pretty bland. I don't get creepy from him at all.I guess it is the blandness that I find creepy. I know some pretty calm people, but given everything he's had going on for the last year or two, there ought to be some sign--even if it is calm!guy!freak-outs, but there's nothing.
This is my impression on the med situation: He was on the Epilepsy meds, but went off his ADs. He then went back on the ADs, after he started hallucinating about Headwound Lilly. Later in the season, when Keith brought him back from Cuba, Celeste's remark seemed to indicate that he ran away without his meds.
My guess is that he is now taking both meds, but I don't think there's canonical confirmation.
So I guess I think Teddy Dunn doesn't have a lot to work with, but I also think he's not the most gifted actor to grace the screen, either.
Yeah, that's a fair cop.
Re the Lilly/Aaron tapes--my impression was that most of the characters who weighed in at least think the tapes won't be necessary to convict Aaron. Of course, that probably means Aaron will walk, but really, it may well be more interesting if he walks.
P.M. Marc - Dec 08, 2005 5:18:32 am PST #1451 of 5730
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Has anyone noticed how hard they're trying this season to *not* make this a high school show?
Yes, and I miss the high school.
Tom Scola - Dec 08, 2005 5:20:04 am PST #1452 of 5730
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
I do too. Last year they had basically one season-long arc, and it was kept in the background most of the time.
Laura - Dec 08, 2005 5:30:13 am PST #1453 of 5730
Our wings are not tired.
This episode sucked. The end.
Another thing that bothers me about this is that since there was no Lost last night there may have been the potential for new viewers to try the show on for size.
DH was home last night, a rare occasion on a Wednesday, and I almost suggested he give it a try. Grateful I decided that it would be a better plan for him to watch from the beginning. If he doesn't like something on first try he won't try again.
Medication haze may be the reason for the foggy blandness of Duncan's character. It's difficult to care about him.
Jon B. - Dec 08, 2005 5:37:10 am PST #1454 of 5730
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Of course, that probably means Aaron will walk, but really, it may well be more interesting if he walks.
Ummm... locked Veronica in a box and tried to burn her alive? If he walks, it'll be because of a dumb technicality.
le nubian - Dec 08, 2005 5:38:47 am PST #1455 of 5730
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Yep. Attempted murder if not the actual homicide of Lily.
Nutty - Dec 08, 2005 5:39:15 am PST #1456 of 5730
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Well, that's what Leo said about the tapes. I guess if enough witnesses testify to them, it's okay, but I bet the prosecution would have rather had the actual evidence.
I don't remember one way or the other, but, wouldn't somebody have searched the room and impounded the cameras? That goes a long way toward supporting what the tape-viewers will testify to seeing.
Also, the tapes are only necessary for a conviction on Lily's murder. Aaron Echolls is 100% dead to rights on trying to kill Veronica, and assaulting Keith. Attempted murder probably gets a shorter sentence than successful murder, but really, it ought to be a whole lot of years, right?
Unless he has a giant drug kingpin he can roll over on.
bon bon - Dec 08, 2005 6:00:41 am PST #1457 of 5730
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
I'm no lawyer, but it seemed odd to me that they were convicting based on extrapolation.
If it seemed odd to you, it was actively painful for me. I was sitting on the couch moaning, "no! why are you doing that? Stop it, please. Don't fill in the blanks! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP HYPOTHESIZING!"
But I may have issues with jurors who do the government's work for them.
none of the episodes this season follow last year's format, where a random high school student asks Veronica to solve a mystery for them.
I do too. Last year they had basically one season-long arc, and it was kept in the background most of the time.
I like this season for that reason. I was kind of annoyed last season when the A plot got in the way of learning more about the arc (like when Rob Thomas interviewed that the last few episodes would focus entirely on the mystery...but then we get Hot Dogs and M.A.D.) I feel like most episodes this season has a one-off mystery, but still seems like it's opening up the arc. A very satisfying MoTW/arc-y mix.