Lydia: Its removal from Burma is a felony and when triggered it has the power to melt human eyeballs. Giles: In that case I've severely underpriced it.

'Potential'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Topic!Cindy - Dec 01, 2005 1:12:17 pm PST #1281 of 5730
What is even happening?

Now I have another theory. A cheap trick like making Meg's family so villainous is not VM-esque; they're usually a little more restrained with motivations. But Veronica makes that mistake all the time-- she's always quick to think someone's got some horrifically machiavellian scheme or past they're covering up. (She gets that from Keith.) So Veronica will jump to the conclusion that the child is a product of abuse. I think this episode is seeding a larger plot where her unfounded suspicions get her in much, much bigger trouble.

I want to agree with you, but I think leaving a child that age, alone at home, never mind locked in a cubby, and all the notebooks (upon notebooks) of punishment-writing can't have a conclusion that lies outside the realm of abusive.


Sheryl - Dec 01, 2005 1:16:15 pm PST #1282 of 5730
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

From the promo it seems like Veronica has jumped to the conclusion that Meg's baby was fathered by Duncan. (I hope it isn't because making Duncan the Worst. Boyfriend. Ever by way of dumping his pregnant ex is a cheap way out. As would be a cheating revelation, but I digress)

edited for spelling


Topic!Cindy - Dec 01, 2005 1:23:54 pm PST #1283 of 5730
What is even happening?

Yeah, I am 75% convinced the baby is not Duncan's because of that promo. I'd say 100%, but UPN does tend to give away the HSQs in promos sometimes. My first reaction to it though, was that Veronica was totally jumping to the wrong conclusion.


Kalshane - Dec 01, 2005 1:33:52 pm PST #1284 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I'm willing to bet it's not Duncan's, but I just wish we had a clearer time frame of:

1. The season 1 finale
2. Logan's hearing
3. Logan and Veronica break-up
4. Duncan and Meg break-up
5. Meg gets pregant
6. Duncan and Veronica get together
7. Bus crash
8. Present day

Without a time-frame, it makes it very difficult to even speculate. Did Meg have a fling with this Chris guy over the summer? Did she cheat on Duncan with him? (Which seems incredibly out of character, but after the rest of this season, who knows.) Or, if some of the nastier suggestions of the father are true, why was there no hint of anything like this going on previously?


bon bon - Dec 01, 2005 1:46:08 pm PST #1285 of 5730
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I want to agree with you, but I think leaving a child that age, alone at home, never mind locked in a cubby, and all the notebooks (upon notebooks) of punishment-writing can't have a conclusion that lies outside the realm of abusive.

There's no question that it was. The question is what kind of abuse was going on in the home. Veronica would leap to the conclusion that if she caught one kind it must necessitate other kinds. But that's a huge jump.

ETA: I re-read my post and I meant that Meg's child is a product of abuse.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 01, 2005 2:28:41 pm PST #1286 of 5730
What is even happening?

ETA: I re-read my post and I meant that Meg's child is a product of abuse.

Oh, I should have caught the word "product" there.


victor infante - Dec 01, 2005 3:16:28 pm PST #1287 of 5730
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I'll agree that everyone's probably (?) had a chance to see the alternate ending by now, and we could stop white fonting. Just my two cents, of course.

Actually, having a bitch of a time getting the ending to play, here. Had to skip a bunch of posts. Trying to see if it's up somewhere else in some format I can get it to play in.


victor infante - Dec 01, 2005 3:30:46 pm PST #1288 of 5730
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

All right. Finally saw it. And uhm, I liked the aired-version better.


Kristen - Dec 01, 2005 3:35:01 pm PST #1289 of 5730

Based on what I've read here, I've decided to not even bother with the alternate ending. I sense it would irritate me.

I did, however, like this episode. The show has picked up a lot in the past few eps and I'm feeling better about the world of VM now.


Polter-Cow - Dec 01, 2005 6:00:39 pm PST #1290 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

'Tis a truth universally acknowledged that the UPN promo department is run by a pack of monkeys on crack.

Rob said it was Joel Silver's idea in his little UPN.com chat today.

Plus we find out her parents are psychotic freaks, which wasn't even hinted at previously.

Yes, it was. In "Like a Virgin":

MEG: First my dad wanted to sue the school or kill whoever posted that score and then he searched my room.
VERONICA: For what? Your porn stash?
MEG: [strangled laugh] No. There were these letters I got from a guy I met in Spain. He had a crush on me and wrote all this sexy stuff. Dad kind of flipped out. Told me I was acting just like Lizzie.

Not a psychotic freak, exactly, but the seed was planted from day one.