The A-plot *was* contrived, I agree, but the pay-off of Clemmons with his little smirk at his new name plate delighted me so much that I decided I didn't care how we got there. And I liked Alyson Hannigan's performance quite a bit here, more than I did in her appearances in the last season. Who knew Trina had layers?

Yeah, I liked AH's Trina a lot more this time around.

You know what I just realized? The pillow-over-the-face thing? Shouldn't work on somebody hooked up to lots and lots of vital statistics machines.

Doesn't it take like a good 10 minutes to smother a person? And, during those 10 minutes, aren't that person's vitals going haywire? And when vitals go haywire, don't alarm bells go off and summon all manner of people? Isn't that kind of the whole point of being hooked up to those machines?

I bring this up partly because season 1 of 24 did the same thing, although it was less glaringly a reality-mistake in a universe where cell phones are allowed in the ICU and you can recover from a heart attack in 20 minutes (but a broken ankle takes 4 hours).

Nor this thread.

Sorry, Jon. I'm a bad skimmer.

Meg's pregnancy makes me a little less eyerolly about her personality change around. If she got dumped by Duncan for Veronica and then found out she was pregnant, I can see where she would see it as a life-ruining combo of events, especially considering her crazy family.

Sorry, Jon. I'm a bad skimmer.

Ahhh, I was just teasin'.

So, Logan has been going to the bathroom at a specific time for several occasions now, huh? To meet with Weevil? If that's not a gift of plotbunny to slashers from TPTB, I don't know that it is.

If you are a planning-type of expectant murderer and know your way around the hospital, you can probably sneak near the monitors in the nursing unit and discreetly silence the alarms before you proceed with your deed, especially if it's the evening shift/break-time and there aren't that many people around. But Meg's mom doesn't seem the type.

i'm having issues reconciling it being Duncan's because of how thin Meg/Alona was in the season premiere. we can see hipbones!! if they broke up in May and the bus crash happened in september, she would have been showing a little bit by then. even if it was just a slight pouch. at this point, i don't think it's Duncan's and it ties in with how wrong Veronica's assumptions almost always are.

They need to de-murky Duncan's character pronto, because I have no idea WTF is going on with him. Did he sleep with Kendall? Didn't he?

I don't think he did. i think Kendall just meant she had been in his bed in the literal sense. as in, she was sitting naked on top of it trying to entice him. i'm no Donut lover(unless they're Dunkin'), but i just don't see him sleeping with Kendall. hot or not. plus, it was pretty clear to me from his actions in this episode that he had no interest in her and knew what she was trying to pull.

If there's a movie physics site [link] I wonder if there's a movie medicine site. I have coma questions.

Nutty, I think you are correct with that.

But, hey, TV medicine. Those dainty monitors on her belly looked like no external fetal monitoring device I'd ever seen, and I've seen a lot of external fetal monitoring devices.

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Part of it is the plausability factor(so not only was Meg the only one to survive the crash, but she didn't miscarry either?)

What Cindy said about pregnancy and miscarriages, especially first-trimester. Don't believe the TV tropes, for they are laughable. I swear, the only realistic miscarriage I've seen on TV was Hope's late miscarriage on thirtysomething. (I always feel like I'm outing myself when I talk about thirtysomething, like it's some deep shameful addiction from my past, and I'm not sure why that is, because for all the navel-gazing, it was a pretty okay show.)

Pregnancy Dating 101: it's usually measured in weeks, dated from the LMP (aka, the last time you fell to the commies). Which, yes, means there are about two weeks where you're not even close to pregnant. A normal cycle, by the time you'd notice you were late, you'd be 4.5-5 weeks along. Fic writers, please take note so that I don't have to laugh at your three weeks pregnant character what is one week late.

As mentioned, pregnancy bellys vary. Compare Amy Acker's delicate little bump from last year to Jennifer Garner's very large one from about two months ago (to put them at about the same point in their respective pregnancies).

So, to be slightly more precise than I was last night, the belly o' Meg looked to be anywhere from 25-32 weeks, based on the hundreds and hundreds of belly shots I looked at when I was pregnant, on bedrest, and bored out of my skull. But again, TV pregnancy, which either lasts three months to full term, or 13. (Ah, X-Files, I loved you so when you were good, but WHY did I keep watching?)

Lastly, to get up on my high-horse and no doubt take things out of context, because I feel there's a weird undercurrent in the discussion of Meg that makes me uncomfortable. dude, being bitter at the girlfriend of your ex-boyfriend, when the girlfried gave you her basic blessing to date the ex-boyfriend when he was HER ex-boyfriend doesn't make you a bitch, it just makes you human. Getting knocked up unexpectedly does not make you a ho or a bad person. It just makes you pregnant. And possibly extra-bitchy, but hey, hormones. Even if Meg got pregnant on the rebound, that doesn't make her a tramp.