I am a large, semi-muscular man. I can take it. Don't hide behind Mal 'cause you know he'll shoot it down for you. Tell me.

Wash ,'War Stories'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Betsy HP - Nov 21, 2005 9:20:49 am PST #1097 of 5730
If I only had a brain...

Yup. They more than hinted last week that Duncan had been much closer to his previous girlfriend than he was to Veronica.


Steph L. - Nov 21, 2005 9:27:33 am PST #1098 of 5730
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I'm not so sure Lamb was woobified, either. What we really got was a tiny glimpse that he's not so 2-dimensional, after all. And it was really well done, IMO. Props to the actor who plays Lamb.

Although, possibly Duncan's felicitous meeting with Kendall will teach him a thing or two.

I'd like to see Duncan suddenly become a sex machine (courtesy of Kendall) and *that* be what finally pings Veronica's suspicions.


Vonnie K - Nov 21, 2005 9:29:17 am PST #1099 of 5730
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

When you'd rather watch a movie you know by heart, that's pretty boring sex.

But! It's the Dude! From where I stand, the sex would have to be pretty spectacular to top The Big Lebowski.

Or possibly that's a really sad commentary on my sex life. Err, carry on.


Calli - Nov 21, 2005 9:32:46 am PST #1100 of 5730
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I think Veronica's back with Duncan because he's the normal she wants to get back to more than because he's hot in the sack.


Jars - Nov 21, 2005 9:55:19 am PST #1101 of 5730

Everyone has their dirty little secrets, their closet full of composition books.

This explanation sits better with me. I think I may have just jumped straight to 'woobie!' from too much lj osmosis.


le nubian - Nov 21, 2005 9:56:46 am PST #1102 of 5730
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I actually thought she was interested in Duncan because he's former forbidden fruit. They were something out of a Hemingway novel for a whole year and now that barriers were removed, they got together and things are a bit more flat than their fantasies.

I kind of don't want Veronica paired up with anyone for awhile. I see her dating an older man. Maybe a college guy.


tiggy - Nov 21, 2005 10:05:08 am PST #1103 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

I see her dating an older man.

this just reminded me of the totally hot Lamb/Veronica fic i read. so wrong, but oh so right.

I don't think Lamb has been woobiefied. he didn't say that his father had beat him, he said "i heard my father give that exact same speech once". Mr. Manning had been ranting that Lamb couldn't come in there snooping. that he was the victim. etcetcetc. doesn't necessarily mean that he was a child abuser. though i admit that i will be surprised if they don't go the Lamb=child of abuse route.

am i alone in having issues with the word woobie? for some reason it always makes me think the person calling the character a woobie is finding fault with how the character is being written. probably just my issue.


le nubian - Nov 21, 2005 10:10:46 am PST #1104 of 5730
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

for some reason it always makes me think the person calling the character a woobie is finding fault with how the character is being written. probably just my issue.

Isn't that what the term is supposed to mean? I don't happen to think the term applies to Lamb, but I think it certainly applied to Spike. And most egregiously...Angelus.


tiggy - Nov 21, 2005 10:16:10 am PST #1105 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Isn't that what the term is supposed to mean?

possibly. it just seems to have such a negative connotation.

for the record, i don't think Lamb's a woobie either. i would argue that Logan isn't, as well. no person is either all good or all evil. we all have shades of grey(hi Cindy!) and i love when the writers make me love a character i once hated by showing another side to them.

Joss did it to me many times. Wesley and Faith just to name a few.


le nubian - Nov 21, 2005 10:19:16 am PST #1106 of 5730
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

well, I think that it is difficult to introduce a dark character, make them a comic foil for awhile and never get back to true darkness. Showing shades of a character is completely different than fucking them up entirely and making the character completely different.

Cordelia once she came back from ascension never did have her snappy comebacks anymore. She wasn't very close to the character I enjoyed even after the growth she displayed through Buffy and post-vision Angel.