They should film that story and show it every Christmas.

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Tom Scola - May 22, 2008 3:30:13 pm PDT #2226 of 4673
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

What do you recommend?

Seriously looking at other vendors.

As for rebooting, do you want to take that in your hands?

Is tomorrow morning (around 7:00am EDT) OK?


amych - May 22, 2008 3:40:00 pm PDT #2227 of 4673
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Seriously looking at other vendors.

Not my call, but, Yeah, this. I don't know the details of our current hosting, but that much more every month for a one-time install of a stick of RAM and/or a version of PHP that's coming up on 4 years old now?


§ ita § - May 22, 2008 3:40:42 pm PDT #2228 of 4673
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Seriously looking at other vendors.

Before a recoding effort? I say that because I'm not sure we'll need dedicated hosting at a new vendor, and I'd hate to lock ourselves into it for a given time period if we can write ourselves out of it here.

That having been said--I'm not sure how long it will take to write out of it here, and perhaps that's as well done as somewhere else.

Okay. What's on your need list for a new vendor?

From a development point of view, I'm looking for PHP >5, MySQL >=5, PostgreSQL >8. From an admin-lite point of view, a control panel of comparable functionality to Plesk, but I really don't know what's out there.

Is tomorrow morning (around 7:00am EDT) OK?

I certainly have no problem with it.


§ ita § - May 22, 2008 3:42:57 pm PDT #2229 of 4673
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

that much more every month for a one-time install of a stick of RAM and/or a version of PHP that's coming up on 4 years old now?

No, see, we get a whole new server.

No, I have no idea how that hardware can possibly be *new* in 2008, but that's how it's presented.

Ick. I'm getting horrible blanchy thoughts at the database migration effort. Yay...no. But what must be done, must be done.


Tom Scola - May 22, 2008 3:55:42 pm PDT #2230 of 4673
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Do you periodically do database dumps? My biggest worry is that the database doesn't come up cleanly after a reboot.


§ ita § - May 22, 2008 4:38:21 pm PDT #2231 of 4673
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I had an automatic job set up, but it's been a while since I checked. Let me go see.


§ ita § - May 22, 2008 4:43:58 pm PDT #2232 of 4673
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Tom, let's put off the reboot until I've had a chance to do a full fresh site backup, shall we? For practice, and just in case?

In the meanwhile I guess here's a good as place as any to consolidate our requirements and hosts that can meet them.


sarameg - May 22, 2008 5:30:00 pm PDT #2233 of 4673

At work, we've had to resort to captchas (or whatever the fuck) for our notifications. PIA (I speak as a user) but worth it (as a server person.)


amych - May 22, 2008 7:06:04 pm PDT #2234 of 4673
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I just heard from meara, who says

  • board has been slow and fickle on and off all day
  • now unable to get in to www.buffistas.org
  • was able to get in to buffistas.org (with no www), but was logged out when she got there
  • even then, loading v. slow and couldn't post before timing out

other parts of the internets are fine.


meara - May 22, 2008 7:09:18 pm PDT #2235 of 4673

Am having horrid time posting and refreshing the board this evening...as is Amych...