Up until the punching, it was a real nice party.

Kaylee ,'Shindig'


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amych - May 07, 2008 3:59:22 am PDT #1658 of 4673
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Remind me of the particular reasons for the MySQL hate-on, again? A lot of things have changed in the most recent versions.

(also, noting that "hate-on" is an exaggeration for not-very-humorous effect -- but what particular features are you looking for from a switch to Postgresql?)


§ ita § - May 07, 2008 5:01:54 am PDT #1659 of 4673
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The specific issue I'd had with MySQL no longer exists--they have caught up on the stored procedure front, for example. At the last inspection the only thing is that I'd started to re-architect the systm in PostgreSQL and used some features that it had that MySQL didn't. It's not a real investment, since the rearchitecture is mostly paperware at this point.

I am left with a residual "Hmm?" when PostgreSQL is excluded, though. Just on principle.


Frankenbuddha - May 07, 2008 7:02:43 am PDT #1660 of 4673
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Spoiler font leakage in Spoilers lite.


sumi - May 07, 2008 7:33:02 am PDT #1661 of 4673
Art Crawl!!!

Seriously? I checked and I used the short-cutty "s" command instead of the other thing.


Kevin - May 07, 2008 7:53:02 am PDT #1662 of 4673
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

PostgreSQL is generally lacking from web hosts, in a similar fashion to Ruby. A majority of hosts are either LAMP or IIS with MS SQL server.


§ ita § - May 07, 2008 8:16:26 am PDT #1663 of 4673
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I checked and I used the short-cutty "s" command instead of the other thing.

When I went in there wasn't a shortcutty, because it was a whited out quote. The system then happily ate the closing t /font tag--I went in and put some spaces in after it. Needless to say the automatic tag closing code that was almost written many years ago now is high on the list of things to be taken out and shot against a wall when the Inquisition comes. Not only is it buggy, but it's philosophically flawed in that it edits the contents of the post and saves the edits to the database.

PostgreSQL is generally lacking from web hosts, in a similar fashion to Ruby

I haven't had much difficulty in general finding PostgreSQL. It strikes me as a mark of flexibility on the part of a web host. Even if I'm not using it, I like it to be there, just because I feel it speaks to there being techie room to grow in that environment. I've found Ruby less prevalent, but it's right there on my $6/month domain. Can't beat that with a stick!

It's only on my cheapo site where I don't care.


Deena - May 07, 2008 8:33:00 am PDT #1664 of 4673
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

They're supposedly very responsive over there (they've even answered a couple of stupid questions from me). They might be willing to add it, if we asked.


amych - May 07, 2008 9:55:52 am PDT #1665 of 4673
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Posting is s-l-o-o-o-w for me today -- pages load in more or less normal time, but the post button leads to multiple seconds of waiting.


Kevin - May 07, 2008 1:17:21 pm PDT #1666 of 4673
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Yep, I've seen that on occasion today. Could it be possible to add something at the bottom of the pages indicating MySQL processing time or some such? It would help troubleshoot where the problem is.


§ ita § - May 07, 2008 1:27:59 pm PDT #1667 of 4673
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know if there's much point. Performance has changed but the environment and the code hasn't. If there is database repair to be done, the query time isn't that helpful.