Because even in my unloving state there are guys whose groins I might want to be around, but don't particularly care for their insides, even as initially presented. The guys who you know might get into your pants, but are not getting your number.

exactly.

It isn't that desire /lust is seperate from love, but they are different. And I also believe that desire/lust can last. Unfortunatley it is an emotion that can be influenced by someone forgetting to take out the garbage ( let alone more serious issues) .

Orientation: Mostly boys, though not as exclusively as I believed before I met you all. Attraction: that thing that made me watch Many Splendored Thing seventy-five times because the last scene is hot. If Timmy were real, I'm not sure if I'd love him yet, although his obsessions pull on my "woobie" heartstrings.(I'd love to get the chance to test that theory though.) I love my friends but I'd only get naked with a very few.(I'm not telling!)

I just don't understand how they can expect to win against the show

I think the argument is that they were promised a place to live. They didn't get a place to live, the other family did.

I love Scott in all the ways you love someone, and my desire for him is strong. If an illness was going to remove one aspect from our relationship though, it would be easier, although very sad and a trial, to lose the sexual aspect than it would be to lose his...I don't know what to call it...his companionship

and Cindy says the other part of what I was trying to say but kept tripping ove rwhat I was saying . ( however where you see the word 'Scott' replace with 'Matt')

I think Love at First Sight is still just desire that happens to be inspired by a person that was also otherwise a good match.

Do you mean that the desire is part of a bigger feeling, or it's just desire that grows up to be something romantic?

I think Love At First Sight is just desire that got lucky in the other areas of human relations. Someone lights your fire, and then you get to know the person, and hey, he's a terrific person, too. I should probably choose your second option, above, and would except given the context of Matt's original statement on it...

(a) I mean something more than romantic--romantic sure, but with sort of devotion, trust and companionship of a good friendship, too.

(b) I think there's a distinction between Love At First Sight, and what happens with people who are both pretty and find each other pretty, and start out as friends first, and then date.

and

(c) I'm a pain in the ass.

Oh, haaaaaaa. Guess whose fileserver just crashed? Guess who has to go to work tomorrow?

This girl.

But, how is that the show's fault? How can they prove that ABC didn't fulfill their end of the promise, which was to provide a home. They built it, they paid for it, the construction company paid off the mortgage. The responsibility lies with the foster parents. Maybe ABC should sue them for fraud. They applied to be on the show with the understanding they were getting a house to support their foster children. If it is proven that they purposefully and maliciously caused those children to move out due to the parent's actions, ABC should swoop in and take it back.

In sum: I suspect that romantic love may be a subset of sex with a lot of higher cortical function dancing around madly trying to distract us from this unflattering truth.

I agree with this completely, but I think the key word here is subset. Because seeing someone with a cute butt on the street and thinking "Break me off a piece of THAT" isn't love. Unless I've been doing it wrong all this time.

In sum: I suspect that romantic love may be a subset of sex with a lot of higher cortical function dancing around madly trying to distract us from this unflattering truth.

I agree with this completely, but I think the key word here is subset. Because seeing someone with a cute butt on the street and thinking "Break me off a piece of THAT" isn't love. Unless I've been doing it wrong all this time.

I think a Venn diagram is called for here.

From my experience, love at first sight, nah. But actually that is a confusing question for me, as I have attractions off the internets often...is the first f2f meeting "first sight" because by then I've known what's in the package, if not the Package, for some time. If first sight means first f2f than yeah, maybe.