Natter 37: Oddly Enough, We've Had This Conversation Before.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
What about the morning after pill? No surgery required.
It pings me far less. I'm not crazy about the idea that my kids could get any medication without my knowledge, but I know it's less (overall) risky for my kid to go on b.c. pills, than to conceive, provided she takes precaution against disease, as well. Assuming the risk of the morning after pill is more or less the same as B.C. pills, I think it's a different kettle of fish.
Lyra Jane, thank you for the distinction. I was assuming she meant RU486 when I posted a response but yeah, big difference.
Cindy, I don't think you're wrong. But - you're an adult, making a rational argument. There are kids out there who will feel that
anything
is better than telling their parents. And that's not just young women whose parents are or are likely to be abusive. Like others have said, I don't have kids, so I hesitate to speak as if I know all the ins and outs. But I believe that I would want my daughter to tell me, I would hope that I had raised my daughter to feel that she could, and at the end of the day, I would want her to have access to legitimate, responsible medical providers if she felt she couldn't, whether that feeling was based in reality or not.
But you of course have those rights, and they're simply not at issue here-- this is not a law that hinders good parenting, or somehow prevents you from parenting. The positive obligation is on telling a parent whose child does not want guidance, encouragement, support, discussion-- all the way to forcing the issue with a court order.
This relates to Cashmere's experience.
Any parenting my parents needed to do, they did way before I got pregnant. It was my own mistake and my own choice. And I don't think the year between 17 and 18 meant a bit of difference in my maturity level so the law would have just made an already tough situation that much harder for me.
That covers my perspective on it.
I have to step away to make dinner but it's been an interesting discussion with good points being made.
The boys want tacos.
When I was barely a teenager, my mother said, "You can tell me anything." I believed her, but I never told her anything because there wasn't anything to tell. I was a boring kid. When I was in college, and things became more interesting, she wasn't around to tell, and I never could think of the right time to bring things up when we were together. I'm not sure how the topic came up, but one evening my mother said, "If you ever came home pregnant, I think I'd throw you out of the house." I think this was her version of the "Don't have sex till you're married" talk.
My mother's issues with the subject didn't appear till it was almost past time for her to worry about things (ie, all daughters late teenaged or older). I have no reason to believe she wouldn't have followed through on that threat.
Which is just to say a past history of non-abuse is no indicator of a future of non-abuse.
Which is just to say a past history of non-abuse is no indicator of a future of non-abuse.
It may not be conclusive, but I do think it's indicative. Which is why investigators are prone to saying things like, "There's no history of past abuse" as if it meant something.
And I don't think the year between 17 and 18 meant a bit of difference in my maturity level so the law would have just made an already tough situation that much harder for me.
We have to draw a line somewhere. Draw it at 17, or 16, or 18, it doesn't matter. What matters is that there be a certain age where the state treats you as an adult for this kind of decision, and conversely, an age where you are still a child and your parents need to be involved.
The age of consent to have sex is drawn all the time, and usually not at 18, I don't think. There are generally specific difference-in-age rules, too, IIRC. Will google shortly.
Not the channel I was watching. But they did have some odd angled shots of his wife, with a strange expression on her face for the occasion. I'll bet that's why.....
Yeah, that's hilarious. At least the kid is little, unlike the little Giuliani at his swearing-in that time.
Also, that wanking-guy picture has been everywhere -- I do bet he's just holding, especially as he's looking right at the camera.
OK. [link] So it is 18 in a bunch of states, but I think 16 is the more common. (Scroll down for the US states.)