Sorry, Captain. I'm real sorry. I shoulda kept better care of her. Usually she lets me know when something's wrong. Maybe she did, I just wasn't paying attention...

Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


bon bon - Jan 25, 2006 7:57:13 am PST #7798 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

bon, you're telling me that an actor or a writer wouldn't rather be on HBO or NBC than Spike or Sci Fi? That doesn't jibe with discussions I've had. Getting paid is always good, but there was a point where cable series weren't as highly regarded as they are now--now it's a matter of breaking out and evening the playing field even further.

I don't deny there's a preference; everyone wants to be on the next Friends. But I'm not positive there's actually a stigma to getting a show on certain nets.


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2006 8:02:20 am PST #7799 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not positive there's actually a stigma to getting a show on certain nets.

Stigma's your word, not mine. I said "limited cachet" and I stand by that--NBC or HBO have more than Spike TV, and will for a while, even if they're not actually earning it (NBC has some coasting left in it, I suspect).


Strega - Jan 25, 2006 8:09:50 am PST #7800 of 10001

Largo, I was questioning the implication that network heads only cancel shows that they personally think are bad. Well, and also the idea that quality is some kind of objective, obvious thing that everyone agrees on. I think F&G got cancelled because it got lousy ratings. Which might well be a shame, but... that's how TV works.

Ancier was head of programming at the WB when they developed Buffy. And Felicity, and Dawson's Creek. Like it or not, DC was was a hit for the network and got a lot of good press. Before that he was at Fox, and gave the go-ahead for the first 13 episodes of The Simpsons. Etcetera. If he's an idiot, he's remarkably lucky.

And yeah, I don't see broadcast vs. cable prestige that being a huge factor. It's not like the networks go door to door, begging for scripts, while EPs and writers say, "No, sorry, you're not cool enough to give me money."


Largo - Jan 25, 2006 8:17:52 am PST #7801 of 10001

I stand corrected. About a lot of things.

ETA: Definitely, in the future, I'll know to think before I speak...er, post.


Allyson - Jan 25, 2006 8:19:26 am PST #7802 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I hate it when Strega makes sense and lets the air out of my unrighteous indigination.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 25, 2006 8:24:42 am PST #7803 of 10001
What is even happening?

A troubled teensquito discovers dark secrets....
Won't someone think of the larvae?


Frankenbuddha - Jan 25, 2006 8:27:10 am PST #7804 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

A troubled teensquito discovers dark secrets....

...when he sticks his proboscis where he shouldn't.


Strega - Jan 25, 2006 8:31:29 am PST #7805 of 10001

I like to believe that if I babble enough, sometimes I'll make sense accidentally. But if it helps offset things, I can explain how the Mario Bros. games were commie propaganda.

What were you indignant about?


Topic!Cindy - Jan 25, 2006 8:32:27 am PST #7806 of 10001
What is even happening?

Oh, I wanna hear the Mario/commie thing.


Strega - Jan 25, 2006 8:48:36 am PST #7807 of 10001

Well, it's a little guy in overalls who runs up to a castle, pulls down their flag and raises one with a red star on it. C'mon. Clearly a metaphor for the proletariat overthrowing the ruling class.

Also, the fish symbolize the church trying to knock you off the path to the glorious revolution, and the owls symbolize intellectuals, and the fact that the owls are actually mushrooms isn't important. Because they look like owls, damn it. Oh, and the slow-paced bullets represent the military-industrial complex.