This is so nice. Having everyone together for my birthday. Of course, you could smash in all my toes with a hammer and it will still be the bestest Buffy Birthday Bash in a big long while.

Buffy ,'Potential'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Topic!Cindy - Jan 25, 2006 6:56:36 am PST #7788 of 10001
What is even happening?

I agree that GG/VM would be a better fit (on Tuesdays), but those who program at the networks obviously operate on a plane far different than ours.
The thing is, Dawn Ostrwhatherface is reportedly ecstatic about pairing the two, with GG in the lead. This isn't fan wishing so much, as reports.


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2006 7:01:54 am PST #7789 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Spike TV is developing a Blade series. This may be one less network, but it's true--there are more and more places for scripts to find home. One just has to get over the pride thing and pocket the paychecks.


Wolfram - Jan 25, 2006 7:11:02 am PST #7790 of 10001
Visilurking

One just has to get over the pride thing and pocket the paychecks.

Is it really a pride thing? Some of the most critically acclaimed scripted shows have appeared on cable networks: The Shield, Playmakers, The Closer, Monk, BSG, and plenty of others. I would think it would be more the paycheck thing, as in a much lower one.


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2006 7:12:55 am PST #7791 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Some of the most critically acclaimed scripted shows have appeared on cable networks:

Yes, but getting a series on Spike TV has limited cachet--don't you think? And most everything on Sci Fi that's not BSG is regarded in at best an entertaining light (Stargates) and at worst it's Mansquito. I say that knowing my best friend's series debuts on the channel in six months--the BSG glow doesn't rub off on him automatically.


msbelle - Jan 25, 2006 7:15:54 am PST #7792 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

and at worst it's Mansquito.

You made me laugh out loud and not at a good time.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 25, 2006 7:23:01 am PST #7793 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

and at worst it's Mansquito

This sounds like a dare. Don't give them any ideas.


tommyrot - Jan 25, 2006 7:28:47 am PST #7794 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

A troubled teensquito discovers dark secrets....


bon bon - Jan 25, 2006 7:41:22 am PST #7795 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Spike TV is developing a Blade series. This may be one less network, but it's true--there are more and more places for scripts to find home. One just has to get over the pride thing and pocket the paychecks.

Yeah, I'm not seeing the argument that the space for good television shows has necessarily contracted. It's not like fricking Time Warner or CBS/Viacom went anywhere. (If Viacom hadn't just split from CBS I'd be making the argument that that combined company has around a brazilian channels to air programming on, but I don't know what their relationship is anymore w/r/t their individual television units.)

Plus, there's not necessarily a connection between the growth in outlets and increasing quality, scripted TV; there does seem to be a growth in outlets and a corresponding increase in cheap television-- reality shows and culture talking head shows (where the contributors usually aren't paid).

Yes, but getting a series on Spike TV has limited cachet--don't you think?

For viewers, maybe, but I'd bet insiders don't scoff at someone who got a show picked up, if they think that person has potential.


Wolfram - Jan 25, 2006 7:41:27 am PST #7796 of 10001
Visilurking

Yes, but getting a series on Spike TV has limited cachet--don't you think? And most everything on Sci Fi that's not BSG is regarded in at best an entertaining light (Stargates) and at worst it's Mansquito. I say that knowing my best friend's series debuts on the channel in six months--the BSG glow doesn't rub off on him automatically.

I'm not sure I agree. I don't know the exact figures, but I believe at least half of the population gets basic cable channels, so a series on Spike or TBS, or even The Food Network has lots of exposure - plus they run the show multiple times, and if it's a hit, it gets released on DVD for the rest of the population. SciFi's other show was picked up from Showtime (and the spinoff carries the same "taint"), and their last original series before SGA was Farscape, wasn't it? Comparing Mansquito to SciFi cable series(es) is like comparing the Tori Spelling M.O.W. on NBC to Medium.

Your best friend's series on Sci Fi will stand or fall on its own merits. But considering Sci Fi's track record for original series not spinned off, I'd say your friend is probably very talented and wish him the best of luck. What's his show about?


§ ita § - Jan 25, 2006 7:49:05 am PST #7797 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Comparing Mansquito to SciFi cable series(es) is like comparing the Tori Spelling M.O.W. on NBC to Medium.

Sci Fi has three live action series. Three hours. Today's schedule looks like 8 hours of Roswell, one of Twilight Zone, two of X-Files, one of Stargate, one of Ripley's Believe It Or Not, and Out Of The Blue, Bermuda Triangle: Startling New Secrets, Momentum and Cloned for a sum total of 8 hours. BSG is in no way representative of the channel. It's the exception.

bon, you're telling me that an actor or a writer wouldn't rather be on HBO or NBC than Spike or Sci Fi? That doesn't jibe with discussions I've had. Getting paid is always good, but there was a point where cable series weren't as highly regarded as they are now--now it's a matter of breaking out and evening the playing field even further.