Well, a gathering is brie, mellow song stylings; shindig, dip, less mellow song stylings, perhaps a large amount of malt beverage, and hootenanny, well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny.

Oz ,'Beneath You'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Elais - Jul 27, 2005 8:49:58 am PDT #1798 of 10001
making her home at bronzebeta.com since 2001

I think it is pretty seductive to think the fans had the actual power to Make. Things. Happen. and they feel vindicated if anything positive happens.

Take the Enterprise. I'm sure there are many fans of that show, but is there a specific number that would make TPTB sit up and take notice and revive the show? 100,000, one millon, several million?

I do think that fans definitely create help create more awareness, or create a buzz that gets other people interested and that must help somehow down the road.

How much money would the Serenity movie have to make for there to be sequels? Are sequels dependent totally on ticket sales or are there other factors?


Allyson - Jul 27, 2005 8:55:25 am PDT #1799 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Interview with Tim about The Inside Cancellation

But, can you honestly say that without the visible fan support there'd be a Serenity movie coming out in Sept?

It's what I've been saying. Over and over and over again. If you mean "DVD sales" as visible fan support, then yes, I think that helped Universal's decision to greenlight Serenity. But Kristen and I didn't campaign to buy DVDs. We were all done campaigning by January.


Polter-Cow - Jul 27, 2005 8:58:26 am PDT #1800 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

You can pre-order it from Deep Discount DVD for $17.99.

Oooh. I've heard great things too, and that's...pretty cheap. Well, three bucks cheaper than Amazon. I was definitely thinking of checking it out. If I come into some money.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 27, 2005 8:59:11 am PDT #1801 of 10001
What is even happening?

Bottom line?

We like stories. That's why we're here. What's a better story:

Firefly, which was only going to appeal to certain tastes to begin with, got the short end of the scheduling stick. The studio owned the rights, so they sold the DVDs to capitalize on the cult following (we hates that phrase) Firefly managed to attract, and Universal wanted Whedon for some key projects, so they sweetened the pot by letting him make his pet failed project into a film, that was nearly guaranteed to sell X number of tickets, based on the TV ratings.

OR

Firefly was too good for TV. When it was mishandled, underpromoted, and fell victim to post-season baseball, the fans organized, because they could see the writing on the wall. They got a sweet request from the creator's wife, who may have been pregnant at the time, which asked people to pimp the show. Dedicated and experienced fans coordinated the effort, and raised funs for a tasteful, artistic ad, and charity. The studio couldn't ignore the bottom line, but thanks to the efforts of the fans, were clear they could recoup some money by selling the DVDs. The talented creator was able to point to the fan devotion, when trying to get a movie commitment from Universal, which was already wooing him. The good-guys are stalwart and true. The bad-guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats and we always defeat them and save the day. Nobody ever dies…and everybody lives happily ever after.

I know which one I'd like to be told.


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2005 9:01:11 am PDT #1802 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I know which one I'd like to be told.

RPF?


Polter-Cow - Jul 27, 2005 9:02:57 am PDT #1803 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

From Wikipedia:

Reformatorische Politieke Federatie, a Dutch former political party
Reverse path forwarding
Richard P. Feynman, American physicist
Rwandese Patriotic Front
the Rehabilitation Project Force of the Church of Scientology

I'm not sure which one ita's referring to. I guess the last one, cause everyone loves Scientology.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 27, 2005 9:04:15 am PDT #1804 of 10001
What is even happening?

It's better than real person reality, except for that part where Joss got sunburn on his hands because of the limes. We need that for the fanon. I felt horribly for him, but it was just so gooby, it needs to stay.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 27, 2005 9:04:58 am PDT #1805 of 10001
What is even happening?

I'm not sure which one ita's referring to. I guess the last one, cause everyone loves Scientology.

Real Person Fic = RPF, P-C. And it's not too P.C., nor is RPS.


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2005 9:05:44 am PDT #1806 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's better than real person reality

Well, not when the real people complain, surely?


Polter-Cow - Jul 27, 2005 9:05:54 am PDT #1807 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Real Person Fic = RPF, P-C. And it's not too P.C., nor is RPS.

Aaah. Like Jon Stewart/Stephen Colbert slashfic, for example.