I'm not sure which one ita's referring to. I guess the last one, cause everyone loves Scientology.
Real Person Fic = RPF, P-C. And it's not too P.C., nor is RPS.
Look, Angel, I know you've been out of the loop for a while, but I'm still evil. I don't do errands...unless they're evil errands.
Lilah ,'Just Rewards (2)'
The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Topic!Cindy - Jul 27, 2005 9:04:58 am PDT #1805 of 10001
What is even happening?
§ ita § - Jul 27, 2005 9:05:44 am PDT #1806 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It's better than real person reality
Well, not when the real people complain, surely?
Polter-Cow - Jul 27, 2005 9:05:54 am PDT #1807 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Real Person Fic = RPF, P-C. And it's not too P.C., nor is RPS.
Aaah. Like Jon Stewart/Stephen Colbert slashfic, for example.
Scrappy - Jul 27, 2005 9:07:19 am PDT #1808 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
To clarify my post--I agree with Allyson that the fan's "noise" did not save Firefly. I do think having devoted fans who buy stuff is a thing which makes Joss more attractive to execs--and probably Our Man Tim as well. In that way, having vocal and organized fans is a positive thing. BF is working on trying to get financing for a movie with a director who has won an Oscar, and his name is not enough to get ONE DOLLAR in financing, even though everyone agrees he is very talented and they love his work. Brittany Murphy brings more to the table than this guy, and she isn't even a b-list star.
Jesse - Jul 27, 2005 9:10:13 am PDT #1809 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
And there's a difference between a "fandom" show and a regular little-watched show, no? I mean, I'm sure Two and a Half Men has more viewer than Firefly had, but how many of those people would buy DVDs?
Allyson - Jul 27, 2005 9:10:13 am PDT #1810 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Well, not when the real people complain, surely?
I don't want to be part of someone's wank. It's a really fucked up feeling.
Wolfram - Jul 27, 2005 9:13:51 am PDT #1811 of 10001
Visilurking
Okay, I get it. There is no direct link between the Variety ad and related campaign and the DVD sales or movie. In a completely unrelated but illustrative example, if you were Iraq* and the movie was Al Queda, you would not want us to invade you because despite being a country that fostered it's own kind of terror and in some tenuous way had a connection to supporting fundamentalism and worldwide terror, invading you would have absolutely no effect on Al Queda, their funding, or their specific arm of terrorism.
The same way you don't want to be thanked for the DVDs and movies. Even though your efforts in fandom contributed to an environment that made the planned DVD release more economically viable, you didn't cause the DVDs to get released and weren't involved in any campaign to that effect. So me saying you guys did it, is like me saying go take out Saddam because we need payback for 9/11.
But despite that, Saddam was a bad, bad man. And you guys still kicked ass for the FF fandom.
- This post is not intended to invoke Godwin's law.
Polter-Cow - Jul 27, 2005 9:15:19 am PDT #1812 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
This post is not intended to invoke Godwin's law.
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The Partyman - Jul 27, 2005 9:16:36 am PDT #1813 of 10001
[insert something funny here]
Polter-Cow just made me spit all over my keyboard.
§ ita § - Jul 27, 2005 9:16:57 am PDT #1814 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.