do you think the DVDs would have been promised if there hadn't been a fairly vigorous (to say the least) campaign underway?
yes. there was a large enough audience to justify the release of DVDs and make them profitable, and that wasn't due to postcards, but due to the nielsens. there were a few million regular viewers. It was enough.
I find this very difficult to believe.
And yet, that's how it is.
Before Firefly, a cancelled show getting a DVD release was pretty much unheard of.
Really? I'm not so sure about that. But also not interested in digging up examples.
I can see Universal being very interested in bringing Joss into their fold, but enough to risk $50 million on remaking a failed TV show?
Crazier deals are made every day. Battleship Earth happened. Like, it actually exists. And that's WAY crazier than wooing Joss with 40 mil. They'll at the very least break even on it between US and foreign theatrical releases, so fronting the cash for it was no loss.
I do, however, think the fans have done an amazing job of pushing DVD sales and promoting Firefly/Serenity. I absolutely adore the amount of charitable work they've done. And that speaks well of both the fans and the people who made Firefly happen. They've truly been amazing, generous, loving folks. That makes me insanely happy.
I believe Kristen is right in that it's a lovely story, that the fans campaigned hard and got DVDs and a movie, but it's not a true story. I wish it was. Nothing would make me feel prouder.
Dude, take the pat on the back. Keeping in on tv may have been the intention of the campaign and variety ad, but without that tremendous show of fan support the DVDs and subsequent movie(s) would have been highly unlikely. Sure there were other factors. But how many times just Joss have to say it never would have happened without the incredible fan support?
Really guys, it may not have been the payoff you were looking for, but you definitely earned the credit for it.
ETA: Okay seriously, someone's gonna have to tie Allyson down and shove some credit down her throat. Not It.
Battleship Earth happened. Like, it actually exists.
Which still scares me, to this day.
Really? I'm not so sure about that. But also not interested in digging up examples.
I was trying to think of one, and I'm not coming up with any (not that this means there aren't any). I know PROFIT is finally coming out (I think there's an actual release date and everything), but that's how many years down the road?
Really guys, it may not have been the payoff you were looking for, but you definitely earned the credit for it.
No, we really didn't. And I wish people would stop saying we did. It's a very sweet sentiment but it has no basis in reality.
It's not about being modest or humble. (HA. As IF.) It's about understanding how the industry works. Incidentially, one thing that Allyson and I will totally take credit for is the
way
the FF campaign was run. People in the industry were impressed by the ad and impressing those people? Not so easy to do.
So, I don't think I've ever seen the
Variety
ad. Anyone want to provide a link?
but without that tremendous show of fan support the DVDs and subsequent movie(s) would have been highly unlikely. Sure there were other factors.
But that's just not true at all, Wolfram. It really isn't. I swear. That's what I keep saying and people keep denying. The Variety ad came out days before the cancellation. And when Gail called Joss to cancel, she said he would have DVDs and she wouldn't stop him from shopping the show to another network. And that had everything to do with her relationship to Joss, and not anything to do with postcards.
But how many times just Joss have to say it never would have happened without the incredible fan support?
"i'd like to thank all the little people, god and ayn rand."
It's a nice thing for him to say, but completely untrue.
Thanks, Kristen. Nice ad, very gracious.
