Whatever happened to the still beating heart of a virgin? No one has any standards anymore.

Giles ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'


The Minearverse 4: Support Group for Clumsy People  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls and The Inside), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kristen - Jul 27, 2005 8:13:38 am PDT #1783 of 10001

Really guys, it may not have been the payoff you were looking for, but you definitely earned the credit for it.

No, we really didn't. And I wish people would stop saying we did. It's a very sweet sentiment but it has no basis in reality.

It's not about being modest or humble. (HA. As IF.) It's about understanding how the industry works. Incidentially, one thing that Allyson and I will totally take credit for is the way the FF campaign was run. People in the industry were impressed by the ad and impressing those people? Not so easy to do.


§ ita § - Jul 27, 2005 8:15:12 am PDT #1784 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ben Stiller Show. Live action Tick. Animated Clerks.


Polter-Cow - Jul 27, 2005 8:15:30 am PDT #1785 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So, I don't think I've ever seen the Variety ad. Anyone want to provide a link?


Kristen - Jul 27, 2005 8:17:33 am PDT #1786 of 10001

[link]


Allyson - Jul 27, 2005 8:18:33 am PDT #1787 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

but without that tremendous show of fan support the DVDs and subsequent movie(s) would have been highly unlikely. Sure there were other factors.

But that's just not true at all, Wolfram. It really isn't. I swear. That's what I keep saying and people keep denying. The Variety ad came out days before the cancellation. And when Gail called Joss to cancel, she said he would have DVDs and she wouldn't stop him from shopping the show to another network. And that had everything to do with her relationship to Joss, and not anything to do with postcards.

But how many times just Joss have to say it never would have happened without the incredible fan support?

"i'd like to thank all the little people, god and ayn rand."

It's a nice thing for him to say, but completely untrue.


Polter-Cow - Jul 27, 2005 8:20:41 am PDT #1788 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Thanks, Kristen. Nice ad, very gracious.


Wolfram - Jul 27, 2005 8:21:32 am PDT #1789 of 10001
Visilurking

La la la la la. Not listening to your craxy talk.


Allyson - Jul 27, 2005 8:22:17 am PDT #1790 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Not listening to your craxy talk.

Okay, but will you explain why you refuse to believe it?


Scrappy - Jul 27, 2005 8:26:29 am PDT #1791 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I can see how the fan support made a difference. Fans=$$ to the studios. Most fans follow actors, which is why Julia Roberts or George Clooney or whoever gets movie and production deals. Organized, vocal support of a writer or a director is MUCH rarer and I am sure made Joss a more attractive person to do business with. Universal didn't want to be in business with him because they like his talent--they wanted to be in business with him because it was good for their pocketbook, and it's good for their pocketbook because he brings fans to the theater.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 27, 2005 8:28:38 am PDT #1792 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Per ita's post - D'oh, I own two of them.

But did they all come out before the Firefly DVDs?