But, seriously, we're ON the series DVDs

Ok, I missed a memo. I've never met either of you and I don't think I've even seen pics. Help me out here, were you part of the interviews?

Like they're obliviously inheriting the fruits of your labor?

No, it's not that at all. It's not about stuff or credit, as Kristen says, we had nothing to do with Serenity, and we got to walk on the ship and got crew jackets. We got the love and recognition and appreciating from Tim, a bucketload.

But lately I've seen articles about how hard the fans fought and the campaigns and such, and it seems to bleed into Serenity's promotion. And it bothers me. The lack of any sense of shared history bothers me, too. But I think that is due in part because both the Bronze and Buffistas have such a clear, strong connection to history. And sometimes I'm written out of that Firefly history.

were you part of the interviews?

GOD NO. That would require being on camera. The ad is on the DVDs. That's more than enough for me.

know exactly who started the ball rolling and got us a Big Damn Movie.

But, like I said above, I've never believed that the fans had much to do with why Serenity got made. When it was announced, one of the first things I said to Allyson was, "Wow. Universal really wants to be in business with Joss." And I do think that's why they did it. They tossed him a few million to go make the movie he wanted so that, when he was done, he'd turn around and make them some billions on blockbusters like Wonder Woman, etc.

Eddie, Kristen designed the Variety ad. We're not actually physically on them, but since our work (i adore that ad) was on them, we both, i think, feel like we were on them in a way.

Although, I'm rallying to at least interject some stupidity on The Inside DVDs.

I can understand the business decision to get in bed with Joss, and you may very well be right.

But there's the underdog story that everyone wants to believe in and the story of Serenity is inextricably intertwined with the little teevee show that could... well, eventually. People want to believe they made a difference, that they beat The Man. So, in this tale, one thing leads to another.

For my part, I gotta think Universal's decision was based on a little of each of these views. Nobody wants to throw away $50M if they don't have to, damn the ROI. The rabidosity of the fans must have contributed to the movie getting greenlit.

But there's the underdog story that everyone wants to believe in

I totally understand that. It makes fans feel good to thiank that they may have made a difference. It makes good copy in the press and helps promote the movie. It just makes me, personally, twitchy.

I do think the DVD sales helped get the movie greenlit. Like, "Well, the show moved X units so we have a chance of breaking even on a movie." If Joss had been shopping around The Adventures of Mr. Gordo & Miss Edith...probably not so much.

I understand what Kristen and Allyson are saying but, I contend that they haven't been written out of the "history" of whatever fan movement there has been.

Maybe I am just touchy about Firefly and Serenity fans being written off as ungrateful louts with short memories but, no one has forgotten the Variety ad.

At least twice a month someone puts out a request to see it because they believe it was the starting point that got a movie made three years later. Whether or not there was true cause and effect I can't say but the popular belief is that it was the start of something big and fans are grateful.

Me and my annoying run-on sentences are going to bed now.

Tamara, please don't think I look at FF fans that way. I truly don't. I do think that I am, like, a footnote in the History of FF Fandom. Which A) is the way it should be and B) pretty much the way I want it.

I would rather people remember the ad itself than the person(s) who designed the ad. After all, without the hundreds of fans who sent us money and mailed postcards and spread the word, the campaign would have come to a screeching halt when we had to call Tim to ask for his Amex number and he said, "Never call here again. You are dead to me."

I mean, sure, I have my moments. Like when someone is looking for the ad to use for something and they're all, "Oh who designed it?" And I have that ugly, "Don't you know who I AM?" reaction. But then I remember that I left fandom. It didn't leave me.

Mostly, however, I am sad that I did not win Mega Millions last week. $145M and I was gonna call that Global Frequency dude and see if he wanted to give that crazy straight to DVD/air it on the internet paradigm shift a whirl.

If Joss had been shopping around The Adventures of Mr. Gordo & Miss Edith...probably not so much.

Now I want to see this movie.