But there's the underdog story that everyone wants to believe in

I totally understand that. It makes fans feel good to thiank that they may have made a difference. It makes good copy in the press and helps promote the movie. It just makes me, personally, twitchy.

I do think the DVD sales helped get the movie greenlit. Like, "Well, the show moved X units so we have a chance of breaking even on a movie." If Joss had been shopping around The Adventures of Mr. Gordo & Miss Edith...probably not so much.

I understand what Kristen and Allyson are saying but, I contend that they haven't been written out of the "history" of whatever fan movement there has been.

Maybe I am just touchy about Firefly and Serenity fans being written off as ungrateful louts with short memories but, no one has forgotten the Variety ad.

At least twice a month someone puts out a request to see it because they believe it was the starting point that got a movie made three years later. Whether or not there was true cause and effect I can't say but the popular belief is that it was the start of something big and fans are grateful.

Me and my annoying run-on sentences are going to bed now.

Tamara, please don't think I look at FF fans that way. I truly don't. I do think that I am, like, a footnote in the History of FF Fandom. Which A) is the way it should be and B) pretty much the way I want it.

I would rather people remember the ad itself than the person(s) who designed the ad. After all, without the hundreds of fans who sent us money and mailed postcards and spread the word, the campaign would have come to a screeching halt when we had to call Tim to ask for his Amex number and he said, "Never call here again. You are dead to me."

I mean, sure, I have my moments. Like when someone is looking for the ad to use for something and they're all, "Oh who designed it?" And I have that ugly, "Don't you know who I AM?" reaction. But then I remember that I left fandom. It didn't leave me.

Mostly, however, I am sad that I did not win Mega Millions last week. $145M and I was gonna call that Global Frequency dude and see if he wanted to give that crazy straight to DVD/air it on the internet paradigm shift a whirl.

If Joss had been shopping around The Adventures of Mr. Gordo & Miss Edith...probably not so much.

Now I want to see this movie.

Frank and I are as one. That's why he meets my social obligations for me.

Frank and I are as one.

We should start a fan campaign.

Or not.

Maybe I am just touchy about Firefly and Serenity fans being written off as ungrateful louts with short memories but, no one has forgotten the Variety ad.

No, they haven't forgotten the ad. But they have forgotten who ran the campaign. This doesn't bother Kristen, but it bothers me.

I don't expect an alter, or my own personal thread on the OB, and recognize fully that without the fans' participation and huge efforts, it doesn't matter.

It's fresher in my mind because of the book (my book, it loves carrots) and the research of sifting through dozens of posts and watching me gradually lose my shit during that time. And I haven't left the community the way Kristen has, I'm still around and visit often. I felt a part of that community.

They haven't forgotten the ad, but they forgot how it came to be. I do want to be a footnote in that collective history, it's important to me. Kristen sees us as a footnote. I see the Variety ad as a footnote, but also think I've disappeared.

The recent posts at the OB where so many people were searching for a high res version of the ad, and that no one knew where to get one or thought to include us in that discussion hit me in the gut.

I'm whining. I know. It grates, and it shouldn't, maybe.

No, they haven't forgotten the ad. But they have forgotten who ran the campaign. This doesn't bother Kristen, but it bothers me.

And your book does like carrots, Allyson. It's a wonderful read.

Allyson there are probably ten to twenty people who posted on the OB when the ad came out that are still there today. Maybe less. I wish I could make them nicer to you because you deserve it.

I wish I could make them nicer to you because you deserve it.

That's amazingly kind. You know what, though? My perspective is skewed by what is interesting to me. I know all about the Topic Wars and Color Wars and who did what at the Bronze, years before I got there, because I'm awfully interested in community history and how it all came to be. And still, if you went to what's left of the Bronze, and asked, "how come we can't all post in color?" a handful of people would be able to answer, or at least know where to find 'stina who was the keeper of that piece of history.

I find the history of a community to be incredibly important.