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Spike's Bitches 24: I'm Very Seldom Naughty.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Sparky1 - Jun 07, 2005 12:53:02 pm PDT #3184 of 10001
Librarian Warlord

Which is precisely why it's so sad and why we're all wishing someone would whisper to her and remind her that she's lost sight of her priorities.


Trudy Booth - Jun 07, 2005 12:53:15 pm PDT #3185 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Lilty, when I graduated college I went to Europe for three months on basically twenty dollars a day (which included accomodations but not transportation). It was worth every penny pinched and every debt accrued.

While I doubt you could do it for that price a decade (or so) later, you can eat wonderful food if you avoid the chi chi. Hell, just about EVERYTHING will be new even their low-end stuff so enjoy that. In Paris, for example, I got hooked on jambon et burre sandwiches. They were sold at stands and in little shops and while ham and butter on bread sounds lame, its french ham on french bread with french butter (and sometime little french pickles) and it tastes OUTSTANDING and I cheerfully ate them every day. I've never been able to imitate them since. Hot dogs from stands in Vienna had the only draw-back of making me literally unable to eat an American hot dog for TWO YEARS when I returned. (there are various options, the roll is this astonishing crusty thing that they pierce with a spike and squirt mustard into and then pop in the frankfurter or whichever you ordered). At coffee shops in Vienna they bring you your coffee (and there are dozens of ways to order it, each combination of milk, sugar, and coffee is treasured) on a little tray with a glass of water. Have a mug of real Budweiser and see what is being imitated. In London I was tickled that they had tea EVERYWHERE -- sandwich stands in the park included (and those sammiches were tasty too -- the bread was different, the fillings were different). Bakerys rock too. Definately in France, just about everywhere. In Italy just eat pasta every chance you have -- eat gnocchi, it's the only place worth doing so.

OTOH, on a budget there is the odd thing you don't get to do. Going up the Eifel Tower, for example, was prohibitively expensive. Here is the mantra: "_______ isn't going anywhere." It's Europe it's old these people hang onto stuff until grim death and you can always go back someday.


Aims - Jun 07, 2005 12:54:26 pm PDT #3186 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Which is precisely why it's so sad and why we're all wishing someone would whisper to her and remind her that she's lost sight of her priorities.

I wish I could be the one who could do it, but I've spent all my, "You're doing WHAT???" cards on the string quartet and where she chose to register.


-t - Jun 07, 2005 12:54:33 pm PDT #3187 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

OKay, I've never been to an actual bridal shower or had one myself, so maybe I don't know anything, but it seems to me that "I'm sorry, I can't make it" is an acceptable response to any invitation. I'm sure we'd all love to do a lot of things for our friends that we can't, it's a tough thing, but it happens. And we shouldn't make oursleves feel worse about it by thinking about what they have done for us when they could. It's not a balance sheet that has to come out even.

(eta: What I came here to say is, I'm washing a load of laundry in my very own living room right now AIFG! And quiet! Whee!)


erikaj - Jun 07, 2005 12:57:26 pm PDT #3188 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Sometimes people forget what it's like not to have, Aimee. I hate it because I'm everyone's Broke Friend.


Aims - Jun 07, 2005 12:58:26 pm PDT #3189 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

But they ARE broke!! That's what kills me about this. He's still in law school and she doesn't have enough hours to be a certified therapist yet!


Steph L. - Jun 07, 2005 1:04:42 pm PDT #3190 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Aimee, I know she's your best friend and you love her, but that is CRAZY. Weren't you just crying with relief earlier because you were approved for a loan so that you could buy GROCERIES?

Honestly, just -- no. You are not obligated to put yourselves further into debt and add more financial stress just because she's been very generous towards Em. Friendship is not a keeping-score relationship. (And I know you said she just wants you there, has offered to pay for the spa treatments, etc., so it seems to me that she gets the whole not-keeping-score thing.)

You're in the wedding. Joe is in the wedding. You're going to a shower in Michigan, which is a haul (unless the wedding is there, too, in which case -- do you have to go twice? I know it's home to you, but plane tickets ain't cheap -- I'm mostly just tallying things up here). You have to buy a shower gift, and a wedding gift, the dress, the shoes, get your hair done, get your nails done, etc., etc., etc.

I just think you shouldn't add one more financial stress when you can avoid it. That's all.


-t - Jun 07, 2005 1:04:42 pm PDT #3191 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Are you certain someone isn't treating everyone (or the broke people)? I'm having trouble making it make sense in my head.

Can you go and not get a treatment, just sit around chatting with the people waiting for their facials and whatever? Because I've been told that that's what I should do in similar situations. Though I haven't, to be honest.


Trudy Booth - Jun 07, 2005 1:06:23 pm PDT #3192 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Oh, and so far as souveniers went...

I bought a patch in each place I went (and still do) and sewed them to my backpack. My thought is "old steamer trunk" my one friend ribs me "Winnebago" -- but on those rare occasions I do check the thing it's instantly visible.

Pick some little thing for you. If I had the money I'd have gotten hats from many lands and mailed them home. Oil of Olay has ten different names. A friend of mine buys toothpaste in every country keeps them in a basket in his bathroom. On another trip I got things that I needed for my apartment but got them in Peru. If you pick a thing and look for that you'll be less tempted by "everything."

As far as gifts, Nilly taught me the BEST policy ever-- magnets, bookmarks, keychains. (I think those were the three -- keychains might be wrong) They're little, they'll be appreciated, they'll be used. If you have a kid that loves some candy or something, get it with the French or Italian label. They'll get a kick out of it. From Peru I brought my Mother a small stone from Macchu Piccu and photographed it there with the ruins in the background. She's nuts about it and it cost me a cheap frame.


Emily - Jun 07, 2005 1:07:01 pm PDT #3193 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

All I've got is shoulda-haves, Aimee, I'm sorry. The matron of honor shoulda checked with the bridesmaids. You shouldn't be expected to attend two bridal showers, especially when this wedding requires flying to another state. Finally, they shoulda kept in mind that you're the mother of a very small but bottomless money pit (who's the cutest thing ever and will grow up to RULE THE WORLD WITH HER IRON CUTENESS but still).

None of this helps you now. Um... You could get hands and feet paraffined for $20! Also, you could go ahead and talk to the matron about how you're just afraid you can't afford it and see what happens. I don't imagine the bride wants you to be coughing up more money than you can afford for her.