Early: You folks are all insane. Simon: Well, my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

'Objects In Space'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


beth b - Apr 30, 2005 5:53:13 am PDT #307 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Actually, the fact that a 32 yr old woman runs away makes me wonder about her circumstances. Only because I knew a woman in her late 20's that was still living at home. If her father knew she was reading romance novels from the library - she would have been severly beaten. Anyway, I could see her getting in a situation where running away seemed like the best idea.


Jesse - Apr 30, 2005 5:54:49 am PDT #308 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

If you need "some time alone," would it kill you to call someone first? Send an email, if you can't deal with talking. I mean, something. Honestly.


Theodosia - Apr 30, 2005 5:55:50 am PDT #309 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I hope all involved can get effective counseling -- most especially the bride. You must be under tremendous stress to do something like that.

If I were the groom, I'd certainly want to put off the wedding at this point, if not cancel it altogether.

( Fourteen!!!1!???/? bridesmaids?)


§ ita § - Apr 30, 2005 5:55:59 am PDT #310 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Easy to say till it actually happens to you

This mightn't have happened to me, but it's not like I haven't cut family off before. It's not something I look forward to, but moving my boundaries out further and further with family who've messed inconsiderately with me -- well, I have a large and difficult family. I'd be drained, wrung dry, and living a very different life if I hadn't.

I have no regrets.


vw bug - Apr 30, 2005 5:58:21 am PDT #311 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

It's not something I look forward to, but moving my boundaries out further and further with family who've messed inconsiderately with me -- well, I have a large and difficult family. I'd be drained, wrung dry, and living a very different life if I hadn't.

Very, very true. I'm sorry...I probably didn't say that very well. I don't think you should push those boundaries out. They're very important. And even more importantly, you must take care of yourself.

No regrets are good.


Scrappy - Apr 30, 2005 5:59:59 am PDT #312 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

vw, I understand that most folks don't do something ike this without powerful cause and that they think they are doing what they have to do, but the thing is, it DOES hurt the people left behind--as you know. It causes everyone who cares about them fear and sorrow and anxiety. They go to seek their own peace, while robbing all who are close to them of theirs. One can understand the behavior, one can forgive it, but it doesn't change the fact that it's deepy hurtful.


Hil R. - Apr 30, 2005 6:03:12 am PDT #313 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

This has been the only story on CNN this morning, as far as I can tell. I just went out to breakfast, and the diner had CNN on the TVs there, and for the entire time we were there, there was no other story. Even the scrolling thing at the bottom was just talking about this.


Sue - Apr 30, 2005 6:13:51 am PDT #314 of 10001
hip deep in pie

It's one thing to run away, but the whole claiming to have been kidnapped thing is insane. I think she should be made to pay for the search and massive panic she caused.

I read this news story in the paper this morning: [link] It makes me sick. Why can't people like this be thrown in jail? Their business should be taken away from them, at least. Thousands of dollars in damages don't seem like punishment enough. I need to find out the name of their farm so I can be sure that I never buy produce from them.


Theodosia - Apr 30, 2005 6:16:29 am PDT #315 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Um, if that's an animal cruelty story, I'm not clicking. I'd rather read about a dozen selfish brides running away, seriously.


§ ita § - Apr 30, 2005 6:18:16 am PDT #316 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

No animals were harmed in the making of that story. A great deal of racist humiliation was involved, though.