Angel's lame. His hair goes straight up, and he's bloody stupid!

Buffybot ,'Dirty Girls'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - May 04, 2005 5:54:35 am PDT #1163 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

WRT to the Logan - Veronica kissage. 1st time was extremely hot (motel balcony), out by the Echolls pool post Dylan smack down was so so, secret making out session in bathroom was hot, at Logan's house getting caught by Dad was way too cutsie not at all hot, last night stuff was all ok.

I am not a fan of cutsie cheek and head kissing Logan. Unsurprisingly, I love protector and take charge Logan.

What I really learned last night is that fictional boys named Logan are always "F" and should never be anything more.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 04, 2005 5:55:57 am PDT #1164 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

ChiKat, would War of the Roses work for your purposes? The wife has a parallel downfall, but she's definitely the cause of the husband's ruin.

Romeo and Juliet might be a way to go. Of course both die in the end, but earlier on it has Romeo becoming a wanted man for killing his love's cousin...


§ ita § - May 04, 2005 5:56:44 am PDT #1165 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Wolverine is totally marriage material.

Cheek kissy Logan is a bit much. But I admit to having not paid that much attention to what he was like with Lilly. Like you, msbelle, protector Logan makes me all weak. Mrowwr.


tommyrot - May 04, 2005 5:57:42 am PDT #1166 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Oh, and Superman, in the second movie. He looses his powers once he boinks Louis Lane.


msbelle - May 04, 2005 5:58:47 am PDT #1167 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

F'em all is what I say.

Like I need more fictional crushes.


Theodosia - May 04, 2005 5:59:23 am PDT #1168 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

What are some pop culture/film/tv/literary examples of marriage being a physical, spiritual, or career death to a man?

The Bickersons, one of the most mean-spirited unfunny comics ever.


juliana - May 04, 2005 6:00:12 am PDT #1169 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

What are some pop culture/film/tv/literary examples of marriage being a physical, spiritual, or career death to a man? I can think of the movie Black Widow. Any other thoughts?

Well, Lady Macbeth pushes Macbeth into his murderous behavior, which is a temporary gain but permanent loss later on....


Matt the Bruins fan - May 04, 2005 6:01:59 am PDT #1170 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Oh, and Superman, in the second movie. He looses his powers once he boinks Louis Lane.

I still think that's one of the most insane plot developments I've ever seen. The Kryptonians didn't have super powers on their own world, why would they have rules about having to give them up for sex with an alien? Super powers included strength, invulnerability, and flight, not getting unicorns to lay their heads in his lap!


juliana - May 04, 2005 6:03:51 am PDT #1171 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Oh! Also, the comic Andy Capp.


ChiKat - May 04, 2005 6:05:38 am PDT #1172 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Oh, and Samson. He hooks up with a chick, and the bitch cuts his hair.

Great example. Just not quite modern enough.

War of the Roses? That may work.

Shakespeare, again, not quite modern enough. Even Madame Bovary is probably too old, but I'm gonna use it anyway.

Bickersons? Never heard of it...need to go Google.