The Age of Innocence is also a good one. Edith didn't have very good things to say about marriage, did she?
Who was the real power? The Captain? or Tenille?
Xander ,'Showtime'
What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Cashmere - May 04, 2005 5:38:03 am PDT #1153 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.
Frankenbuddha - May 04, 2005 5:38:19 am PDT #1154 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
And on a completely different note from my last suggestion, SCARFACE where Steven Bauer marries Pacino's sister, he finds out they've slept together, and kills him before he finds out they got married.
Vonnie K - May 04, 2005 5:38:39 am PDT #1155 of 10001
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
What are some pop culture/film/tv/literary examples of marriage being a physical, spiritual, or career death to a man?
Ethan Frome?
Re VM: msbelle, I had the exact same reservation you had re. some of the Veronica/Logan scenes. How can Veronica be so forgiving of Logan? And when did Logan turn into an understanding schmoopy perfect boyfriend? I think the lovey-dovey-ness was exaggerated to make the video reveal more shocking, but it sat uneasily with me--possibly the only thing marring this powerhouse episode.
As for Lilly's killer. I have no freaking clue. My fave suspect thus far has been Lianne, but I was hurting so much for Veronica last night that I kind of want her to have a satisfying, clean avenging of Lilly's death without the kind of soul-crushing despair it'd bring if Lianne was culpable. And I love Aaron--well, not "love" per se, but I think Harry Hamlin's portrayal of the character and the massive fucked-up relationship he has with Logan is one of the most interesting things on the show. I'd be sorry to lose that. But of all the adults, I think Celeste is the best bet, which strike me as a bit too obvious way to go, because she's been such a villain all along.
msbelle - May 04, 2005 5:41:17 am PDT #1156 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
ita!! AHHH! but those things always feel like misdirects to me.
§ ita § - May 04, 2005 5:44:41 am PDT #1157 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It is screamworthy, isn't it? For some reason, although I was agitated about the idea that Logan was the rapist and/or drugger of VM, I think I'd not be traumatised if he was the killer. I'd be disappointed, because less Dohring is BAD, and less Dohring-macking is sad too.
I don't know who I really want to be it, though.
shrift - May 04, 2005 5:51:38 am PDT #1158 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
I feel kind of light-headed.
Is it because they're books you bought for your courses, and you won't be needing them anymore? 'Cause that's understandable.
ChiKat - May 04, 2005 5:52:05 am PDT #1159 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
Thanks everyone! Madame Bovary, Star Wars, Married with Children are great examples. Ethan Frome doesn't quite work. While it fits many stereotypes, it doesn't fit the one I'm tracing (technically, his wife didn't hurt him...his affair did).
And I can't believe I completely forgot this one: Angel loses his soul when he sleeps with Buffy.
erikaj - May 04, 2005 5:52:55 am PDT #1160 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Must watch last night's TDS, and remember I don't RPF. LOVE both of them.
tommyrot - May 04, 2005 5:53:31 am PDT #1161 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Oh, and Samson. He hooks up with a chick, and the bitch cuts his hair.
Gudanov - May 04, 2005 5:54:27 am PDT #1162 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping
Well fuckity, I'm migrating build systems and suddenly the build server will no longer boot. I thinks I will be working late tonight.