At least from me, "I know Gene and he's not homophobic" would have generated less debate from me. How the hell can you argue with that?
Done deal.
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§ ita § - Jan 08, 2006 4:53:39 pm PST #9738 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Trudy Booth - Jan 08, 2006 5:25:37 pm PST #9739 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
What I meant was "Then citing your knowledge of Gene carries more weight than any assumption that having gay children automatically confers you with sense or sensitivity, doesn't it?" was sorta... pedantic? bossy? something a debate coach would say? whatever.
I'd rather say the likely googlelable "his kid is gay" than give a personal anecdote, so I tried to avoid it.
§ ita § - Jan 08, 2006 5:36:57 pm PST #9740 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't care about coaching anyone to argue better, Trudy. That would be weird. I am probably over-invested in finding out why people present the information they do. Because it tells me more about the topic at hand, and that is, after all, what's at hand.
I was trying to work out why his kid being gay was relevant. I still have no idea if it was, but if this isn't something you want to discuss, no matter.
Trudy Booth - Jan 08, 2006 6:09:47 pm PST #9741 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
Nah, that's cool. Sorry I got touchy -- I was upset when I read it because I'm fond of them but I didn't want to say that for some reason.
I think GLAAD saying:
"Shalit's bizarre characterization of Jack as a 'predator' and Ennis ( Heath Ledger) as a victim reflects a fundamental lack of understanding about the central relationship in the film and about gay relationships in general"
and
"Shalit has every right as a film critic to criticize Brokeback Mountain, but his baseless branding of Jack as a 'sexual predator' merely because he is romantically interested in someone of the same sex is defamatory, ignorant and irresponsible."
along with demanding retractions and firings etc is a bit much considering if you Google "Shalit son gay" or "Gene Shalit gay" you see the article he wrote for the Advocate, that he's a member of P-Flag, that he contributed to a book called "Out of the Closets, Into our Hearts."
Volans - Jan 08, 2006 8:30:30 pm PST #9742 of 10002
move out and draw fire
Good God. I didn't even know Uwe Boll had another movie coming out. And it's got Ben Kingsley and Michael Madsen in it! WTF? Hadn't they heard of Boll? (I'm not going to ask if they'd seen his previous work.)
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 08, 2006 9:32:47 pm PST #9743 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Well, at this point I could wave a twenty at Michael Madsen and get him to star in a home movie. But I think Kingsley must have hired Burt Reynolds' manager to review scripts for him.
§ ita § - Jan 09, 2006 4:05:12 am PST #9744 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The woman on the poster for Underworld: Evolution does not look like Beckinsale. In fact, those posters are faking me out for BloodRayne. I have, however, finally seen Underworld, so I'm ready for the schlock.
Tom Scola - Jan 09, 2006 4:16:07 am PST #9745 of 10002
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The woman on the poster for Underworld: Evolution does not look like Beckinsale.
Maybe she's had more plastic surgery done?
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 09, 2006 6:55:02 am PST #9746 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I think it's more a case of pale makeup, neon blue contacts, and extensive Photoshopping to remove every hint of a pore for the poster.
She's still more recognizably herself than Summer Glau was on those Serenity posters.
§ ita § - Jan 09, 2006 6:59:23 am PST #9747 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
She's still more recognizably herself than Summer Glau was on those Serenity posters.
Summer was starting out with a individual face. Kate's been photoshopping herself bland in meatspace anyway. I mean, even knowing it's her, I can't see it. I could tell those pics were Summer. Bad Summer, but no one else.