You were very nearly devoured by a giant demon snake. The words 'let that be a lesson' are a tad redundant at this juncture.

Giles ,'Selfless'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Polter-Cow - Jul 23, 2012 1:11:05 pm PDT #9478 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

What! That's cool.


DavidS - Jul 23, 2012 1:17:09 pm PDT #9479 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What! That's cool.

Yup! What? You thought we only had an "ita moon" to our credit?


Steph L. - Jul 23, 2012 1:41:53 pm PDT #9480 of 10458
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

And the leather pants reference Lorne makes to Angel, right? After his Beige Angel period? (Possibly in "Happy Anniversary"?)


DavidS - Jul 23, 2012 1:56:30 pm PDT #9481 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I also bullied Tim into admitting that Cordelia wouldn't carry a stake in her purse in case Angel went bad, especially after she found out that a Taser would work on Vamps. So he upgraded her to Taser.


Kate P. - Jul 23, 2012 4:59:19 pm PDT #9482 of 10458
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

From Mark's review of "Gone":

The only thing I worry about is something happening that would trigger Willow into using magic.

I have a feeling he will come to regret that phrasing...


DavidS - Jul 23, 2012 5:17:19 pm PDT #9483 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I have a feeling he will come to regret that phrasing...

After the whole Spuffy kerfuffle he casually mentioned that there probably wouldn't be anything as controversial in the season yet to come.

"Seeing Red" in t-minus 7 episodes...


chrismg - Jul 24, 2012 12:00:44 pm PDT #9484 of 10458
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

I've seen it discussed, here and elsewhere, about Wesley's tendency to assume whatever option hurts him personally is The Correct And Moral Choice. Mark's review of Birthday suddenly got me wondering whether it was a general thing the show says, in light of Cordelia's choice to keep the visions and be demonized. Angel seems pretty willing to accept punishment, but he has a lot of genuine guilt. Do you think Fred or Gunn are ever put in that position, or other characters?


DavidS - Jul 24, 2012 1:41:52 pm PDT #9485 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think the show is a lot about self-sacrifice, which with Angel and Wes tends to involve some self-hatred. NSM, with Cordy, Fred and Gunn.

It's a little weird to me all the Cordy love over there. I mean, I do enjoy the character but she wouldn't be in my top five in the Whedonverse.

I'm as taken aback by the Cordy-love as I was by the Xander-hate.


Strega - Jul 24, 2012 4:22:03 pm PDT #9486 of 10458

On Angel? Cordelia is strongly motivated by guilt and the desire to make up for past sins. Just like Doyle and Wesley. It's not as big an ongoing thing for Gunn but he's certainly drenched in guilt for his introduction.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 24, 2012 6:16:29 pm PDT #9487 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It's a little weird to me all the Cordy love over there.

That definitely comes from Mark. I'm curious if he's even going to even recognize how badly they are treating the character (for the various reasons they did), and I'm REALLY am curious what his feelings are going to be for the character when we get to "Why do you think I let him out, you bitch?" STAB!