Willow: Yes. Hi. You must be Angel's handsome, yet androgynous, son. Connor: It's Connor. Willow: And the sneer's genetic. Who knew?

'A Hole in the World'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Amy - Jun 14, 2012 8:08:37 am PDT #9348 of 10458
Because books.

I liked everyone, really. Except for Cordelia, after about the third season. After Pylea, I guess, actually.


§ ita § - Jun 14, 2012 8:15:08 am PDT #9349 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I didn't like some of what they did with Fred (see how I make it not actually Fred? Coping technique ahoy), but her introduction was fucking awesome. And I have to remind myself she only said the "Handsome man!" thing once. We just had the pleasure of reliving it weekly.


Ginger - Jun 14, 2012 8:27:08 am PDT #9350 of 10458
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I couldn't tell you what the problem with them is, though.

They induced nausea in sensitive individuals. Fred and Gunn was my favorite pair, though.


le nubian - Jun 14, 2012 8:31:34 am PDT #9351 of 10458
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I have to say that I had a higher tolerance for Fred and the romantic triangle after the bullshit Angel/Cordelia stuff.

That was so awful that I had to look upon previous awfulness with appropriate context.


le nubian - Jun 14, 2012 8:32:09 am PDT #9352 of 10458
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

And even Angel/Cordelia was out-awfulled by Cordelia/Connor


le nubian - Jun 14, 2012 8:32:54 am PDT #9353 of 10458
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

(cereal): you know, I do look forward to Mark watching those bad spell of episodes.


Kate P. - Jun 14, 2012 8:36:38 am PDT #9354 of 10458
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I liked Pylea. At least, I remember it fondly, mostly for the humor.


tiggy - Jun 14, 2012 8:38:16 am PDT #9355 of 10458
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

i'm honestly not sure which pairing(or attempted pairing) i hated more. Cordy/Angel or Cordy/Connor. probably the latter because we had to sit through more of it. mostly i just hated everything to do with Connor.


Kate P. - Jun 14, 2012 8:39:00 am PDT #9356 of 10458
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I have to say that I had a higher tolerance for Fred and the romantic triangle after the bullshit Angel/Cordelia stuff.

Oh yeah. I HATED Cordy/Angel, and apparently I hated Cordy/Connor so much that I managed to completely erase any memory of it from my mind. I did like Fred/Gunn quite a bit, though the pancake kisses scene was not my favorite.


Polter-Cow - Jun 14, 2012 8:40:44 am PDT #9357 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

you know, I do look forward to Mark watching those bad spell of episodes.

It will be interesting. I'm in a minority over there for loving season four. I also liked Connor. But I can definitely see reasons for not liking what happened with Cordelia, both on-screen and the behind-the-scenes shenanigans, and Mark loves Cordelia a LOT. So.