True, but I think Buffy took it for granted.
I think this is true for Seasons 1-4 but not for 5-7. Xander and Buffy developed an adult friendship but it doesn't really seem like she and Willow ever did. (And by adult I don't mean porn.)
And don't you ever stand for that sort of thing. Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back! ... You got the right same as anyone to live and try to kill people.
Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Glamcookie - May 18, 2005 6:48:06 am PDT #821 of 10458
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
DebetEsse - May 18, 2005 6:49:15 am PDT #822 of 10458
Woe to the fucking wicked.
But Buffy doesn't know about that lie, ita.
Glamcookie - May 18, 2005 6:51:49 am PDT #823 of 10458
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
Also the lie, while shitty, doesn't come close to the things Dark!Willow did.
ETA: I can't believe I'm slagging Willow and defending Xander! My world is turned upside down!
Narrator - May 18, 2005 6:52:32 am PDT #824 of 10458
The evil is this way?
Well, there is that lie about Angel. That wasn't perfectly healthy, helpful and supportive, by a long shot.
Sees dead horse. Rides same. I disagree. He thought that Buffy needed to focus on the fight and save the world without being distracted by the real long shot that Willow could resoul Angel.
Scrappy - May 18, 2005 6:54:17 am PDT #825 of 10458
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
He thought that Buffy needed to focus on the fight and save the world without being distracted by the real long shot that Willow could resoul Angel.
Yeah, but a true friend doesn't decide for one what is best--they give one all the information and trust one's judgment. My friends don't make choices for me because that makes me powerless.
Steph L. - May 18, 2005 6:54:58 am PDT #826 of 10458
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
I disagree. He thought that Buffy needed to focus on the fight and save the world without being distracted by the real long shot that Willow could resoul Angel.
Puh-leeze. He hated Angel, and Angelus had killed people he cared about. That dead-horse lie was a totally selfish move on Xander's part.
Calli - May 18, 2005 6:55:29 am PDT #827 of 10458
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
But Buffy doesn't know about that lie,
I thought it came out as a near-throwaway line in the last season. Buffy mentioned how Willow had told Xander to tell her to kick Angel's ass, and Willow was like, "What? I never said that."
Topic!Cindy - May 18, 2005 6:58:20 am PDT #828 of 10458
What is even happening?
Sees dead horse. Rides same. I disagree. He thought that Buffy needed to focus on the fight and save the world without being distracted by the real long shot that Willow could resoul Angel.
Giddyap. Yeah. He was 17. He was 17, and wrong. He was 17, and wrong, for the right reasons. I am way more disappointed in Mutant Enemy for never giving us any more of a reveal on Xander's lie than the blessed tease given by Ultimate Drew in Season 7, than I am in Xander, for overstepping.
Jessica - May 18, 2005 6:58:41 am PDT #829 of 10458
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
loves that this is still worth arguing over
Buffy mentioned how Willow had told Xander to tell her to kick Angel's ass, and Willow was like, "What? I never said that."
I didn't get the impression that they ever came back to that, though, since it went by so fast. I suppose Buffy could have thought it over later and realized what had happened, but since we never saw any other fallout, I think it's more probable that the conversation moved on and that was the end of it. Total continuitygasm for the fans, though.
§ ita § - May 18, 2005 6:59:28 am PDT #830 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
but he didn't flay anyone, or try to kill her and her little sister
Not being Hitler doesn't make you not a killer.
I was responding to the post directly above, for context:
Xander always had B's back, yo.
No, no he didn't.
But Buffy doesn't know about that lie, ita.
Not being caught doesn't make you not a killer either.