All right, yes, date and shop and hang out and go to school and save the world from unspeakable demons. You know, I wanna do girlie stuff!

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Connie Neil - May 18, 2005 6:11:49 am PDT #811 of 10458
brillig

Who is more important to Buffy, Willow or Xander?

Huh. I thought I knew this. I was going to say Willow--then I thought "No, Xander's the Everyman she's fighting for"--then I thought about how marginalized Xander got by the end . . .

I'm leaning towards Willow but I can't say for sure why.


Frankenbuddha - May 18, 2005 6:15:06 am PDT #812 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'm leaning towards Willow but I can't say for sure why.

I'd have to say she's definitely more important for Buffy, just by virtue of her power (Angel's soul, the spell in "Chosen", etc.). On "to", though, I'm kinda stumped.


Lee - May 18, 2005 6:20:59 am PDT #813 of 10458
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I think that Joss/the writers at least thought it was Xander, at least when it can to the "to". (and I will be editing my question to make the to/for distinction) In the very end, Xander was the one she trusted with Dawn. Also, when Buffy, Willow, Giles, and Xander were walking through the high school together before the fight and splitting up one by one, Xander was the last to leave her side.


-t - May 18, 2005 6:23:55 am PDT #814 of 10458
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

when Buffy, Willow, Giles, and Xander were walking through the high school together before the fight and splitting up one by one, Xander was the last to leave her side.

True, but was that because he was most important to her, or because she was more important to him (than to the rest)?

This is a tough one. I'm gonna think on it some more.


Glamcookie - May 18, 2005 6:34:45 am PDT #815 of 10458
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

As much as it pains me, I'm going to go with Xander. Willow turned dark and needed to re-earn Buffy's trust. Xander always had B's back, yo.


Ailleann - May 18, 2005 6:36:47 am PDT #816 of 10458
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

delurking in threads all over this joint

I think this is a stumper because it changes. Early on, Willow is right there, being Buffy's sympathetic ear for all of her HS drama. Xander is the goofy boy, who starts out being awkwardly attracted to her, then is awkwardly jealous and not-understanding (see: Angel).

But then as they get older, Willow's the one who goes off to college/finds a nice girl/gets on the crack!magic. Buffy, who's feeling left behind because of her isolation as the Slayer, can more easily identify with Xander's more homespun success. Plus, Xander's around, whereas Willow is raising evil temples to destroy the world. She needs Xander's quiet strength and support.

t never realized she was a closet B/X shipper until this very moment


Connie Neil - May 18, 2005 6:38:16 am PDT #817 of 10458
brillig

Xander always had B's back, yo.

True, but I think Buffy took it for granted.


§ ita § - May 18, 2005 6:39:34 am PDT #818 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, there is that lie about Angel. That wasn't perfectly healthy, helpful and supportive, by a long shot.


Topic!Cindy - May 18, 2005 6:40:26 am PDT #819 of 10458
What is even happening?

No, but he didn't flay anyone, or try to kill her and her little sister.


Frankenbuddha - May 18, 2005 6:45:21 am PDT #820 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

when Buffy, Willow, Giles, and Xander were walking through the high school together before the fight and splitting up one by one, Xander was the last to leave her side.

Didn't they split off in reverse order from how she met them in WttHm? Giles, then Willow and then Xander.