Giles: Stop that, you two. Riley: He started it... Xander: He called me a bad name! I think it was bad; it might have been Latin.

'Selfless'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


sj - Jan 10, 2012 10:40:19 am PST #8175 of 10459
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Mark finally talks about Drusilla in his review of Lie to Me :

I’m not quite sure how I feel about her character just yet. She does get more depth in this episode, but even that is only told to us by Angel; all we know is that his horrific actions caused her to lose a grip on reality. It does feel weird to me that this is the only aspect to define at this point. She’s strange and awkward, and now we learn it’s all Angel’s fault.

I guess "break with reality" is as close to crazy as he is going to get to describe her. I don't get not loving her right from the very first second, and I have never thought to use the word "awkward" to describe her.


Atropa - Jan 10, 2012 10:43:05 am PST #8176 of 10459
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

and I have never thought to use the word "awkward" to describe her.

Dru is not awkward. She's mad as a box of frogs, but graceful.


le nubian - Jan 10, 2012 10:47:26 am PST #8177 of 10459
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Willow is awkward. Xander is awkward.

Not Dru.


Typo Boy - Jan 10, 2012 10:47:26 am PST #8178 of 10459
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

So, if he ever gets to see it, do you think Mark will enjoy the "The Awkward Woman of Chaillot"?


erikaj - Jan 10, 2012 10:47:33 am PST #8179 of 10459
Always Anti-fascist!

he feels awkward about her cause he expects to have Earth logic. She is not awkward in herself;


§ ita § - Jan 10, 2012 10:48:25 am PST #8180 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Lose a grip with reality? Oh, okay. Code for psychotic break. Really gentle, excusing of Angelus code, but apparently that's the good alternative?


Polter-Cow - Jan 10, 2012 11:14:33 am PST #8181 of 10459
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Oh my God, Mark's review of "The Dark Age" is so funny and sad. He is so completely and utterly unprepared for Jenny's death.

He seems to have captured Joss's mindset, though.


askye - Jan 10, 2012 11:17:04 am PST #8182 of 10459
Thrive to spite them

I read the review, I'm starting to get bored with his hang ups about Xander, it feels like he's got personal issues he's projecting on to Xander. Or something.

As for Dru.

I'd never read Mark WAtches/Read before this. I'm not sure if he's ever dealt with characters that were not sane. I get that he doesn't like the word crazy nor does he want to use it. From what people have said here, saying someone is insane is okay, or at least acknowledging they are mentally ill is okay.

However, there's a big difference between not using a word you think is a slur and ignoring a huge aspect of a character.

It's going to feel really insulting if he's flat out refused to acknowledge her mental state.

But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say that maybe he's not sure exactly how much of a role Dru is going to play. Maybe he thinks she's just going to be Spike's "strange and awkward" girlfriend who is also weak and "helpless". She did turn whatshername in School Hard and tried to eat a kid in Lie To Me, but she hasn't been really threatening other than that and has just been in the "girlfriend" role.


sj - Jan 10, 2012 11:29:44 am PST #8183 of 10459
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

He is so completely and utterly unprepared for Jenny's death.

Yeah, he really doesn't have a clue how much more Joss will make Giles suffer and Buffy as well.

I read the review, I'm starting to get bored with his hang ups about Xander, it feels like he's got personal issues he's projecting on to Xander. Or something.

I completely agree.

Willow’s beautiful freak out on Cordelia and Xander and her demanding they leave HER library is everything that is right with the world.

This really is a wonderful Willow moment.

Also, did anyone else catch a whiff of chemistry when Xander and Cordelia fought? Whoa, that was a weird feeling.

Ha!

Also, where is Ethan? OMG IS HE GOING TO COME BACK.

I know it's a long way off, but I keep wondering what he is going to think of Band Candy.

How much is Buffy’s allowance that she could save up for tattoo removal in 1997??? THAT SHIT WAS EXPENSIVE BACK THEN.

The real question for me in this episode is why the hell isn't Giles paying for the tattoo removal?


Polter-Cow - Jan 10, 2012 11:35:20 am PST #8184 of 10459
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, he really doesn't have a clue how much more Joss will make Giles suffer and Buffy as well.

I didn't really realize until now what a genius move it is on Whedon's part.

"Oh, Giles and Jenny are so cute! I hope nothing happens to them!"
"Mwahahaha, I will KILL JENNY RIGHT NOW!"
"Noooooo, you wouldn't!"
"Okay, you're right, I wouldn't."
"Whew."
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"SUCKERS!!!!!!"