Hmm. It's sounds like the finest party I can imagine getting paid to go to.

Mal ,'Shindig'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 06, 2012 9:29:05 am PST #8163 of 10459
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I don't remember Xander being passive-aggressive w/r/t Buffy. Anya, later on, yes, but not Buffy (and I don't remember that he was with Cordelia either - that was more aggressive-aggressive on both sides).


§ ita § - Jan 06, 2012 9:49:28 am PST #8164 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm totally not getting the Nice Guy support citations for Xander over most of his relationships. Sure, he failed to get the girl sometimes, and he fucked other shit up, but not like a Nice Guy.


Frankenbuddha - Jan 06, 2012 9:52:57 am PST #8165 of 10459
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I should clarify that I don't think passive-aggressive behavior necessarily equals Nice Guy behavior. It certainly can be, but I don't think it was in Xander's case.


erikaj - Jan 06, 2012 12:09:20 pm PST #8166 of 10459
Always Anti-fascist!

In my personal fanon of SKOW,Annie Potts' character tries out "normal" till she breaks up with that guy and goes Goth. But I can also imagine her being Ducky's Mrs. Robinson...is that gross?


beth b - Jan 06, 2012 5:46:14 pm PST #8167 of 10459
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I guess because I knew so many girls that were Xander in high School , that I really see it as more of a high school thing. And I sort of had it in college with one guy that I wanted and knew no way in hell would he want me.

But in today's news - I did not like Halloween as much as mark does on his first viewing( I love it now) There are so many shoes to drop


Vortex - Jan 06, 2012 7:07:01 pm PST #8168 of 10459
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

He's clearly devoted to her for who she is, he's got her back as a friend, doesn't think she owes him sex, just that it would be really cool if he could get it.

Yes, and when he had the mojo and Buffy came on to him, he turned her down because he knew that she didn't really want him.


Connie Neil - Jan 07, 2012 7:44:13 pm PST #8169 of 10459
brillig

It'll be interesting to see what Mark makes of Faith, and I can't wait for "The Zeppo." I wonder when Mark will notice that Xander has been abused as well.


brenda m - Jan 08, 2012 3:27:32 am PST #8170 of 10459
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

He's noticing. Or any rate called out a couple of remarks that suggest his home life is less than ideal.


Una - Jan 08, 2012 3:06:49 pm PST #8171 of 10459
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.

Buffy characters ranked by contribution to episode quality. I hope this statistics-nerd-heaven site isn't old news to you guys...awesome!


Jessica - Jan 08, 2012 3:16:05 pm PST #8172 of 10459
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm no statistician, but I'm pretty sure number of lines per episode is not a good way to evaluate Oz's contribution to an ep's quality.

Not surprising that Dru wins this one, though.