I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly is a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Ailleann - May 18, 2005 6:36:47 am PDT #816 of 10458
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

delurking in threads all over this joint

I think this is a stumper because it changes. Early on, Willow is right there, being Buffy's sympathetic ear for all of her HS drama. Xander is the goofy boy, who starts out being awkwardly attracted to her, then is awkwardly jealous and not-understanding (see: Angel).

But then as they get older, Willow's the one who goes off to college/finds a nice girl/gets on the crack!magic. Buffy, who's feeling left behind because of her isolation as the Slayer, can more easily identify with Xander's more homespun success. Plus, Xander's around, whereas Willow is raising evil temples to destroy the world. She needs Xander's quiet strength and support.

t never realized she was a closet B/X shipper until this very moment


Connie Neil - May 18, 2005 6:38:16 am PDT #817 of 10458
brillig

Xander always had B's back, yo.

True, but I think Buffy took it for granted.


§ ita § - May 18, 2005 6:39:34 am PDT #818 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, there is that lie about Angel. That wasn't perfectly healthy, helpful and supportive, by a long shot.


Topic!Cindy - May 18, 2005 6:40:26 am PDT #819 of 10458
What is even happening?

No, but he didn't flay anyone, or try to kill her and her little sister.


Frankenbuddha - May 18, 2005 6:45:21 am PDT #820 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

when Buffy, Willow, Giles, and Xander were walking through the high school together before the fight and splitting up one by one, Xander was the last to leave her side.

Didn't they split off in reverse order from how she met them in WttHm? Giles, then Willow and then Xander.


Glamcookie - May 18, 2005 6:48:06 am PDT #821 of 10458
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

True, but I think Buffy took it for granted.

I think this is true for Seasons 1-4 but not for 5-7. Xander and Buffy developed an adult friendship but it doesn't really seem like she and Willow ever did. (And by adult I don't mean porn.)


DebetEsse - May 18, 2005 6:49:15 am PDT #822 of 10458
Woe to the fucking wicked.

But Buffy doesn't know about that lie, ita.


Glamcookie - May 18, 2005 6:51:49 am PDT #823 of 10458
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Also the lie, while shitty, doesn't come close to the things Dark!Willow did.

ETA: I can't believe I'm slagging Willow and defending Xander! My world is turned upside down!


Narrator - May 18, 2005 6:52:32 am PDT #824 of 10458
The evil is this way?

Well, there is that lie about Angel. That wasn't perfectly healthy, helpful and supportive, by a long shot.

Sees dead horse. Rides same. I disagree. He thought that Buffy needed to focus on the fight and save the world without being distracted by the real long shot that Willow could resoul Angel.


Scrappy - May 18, 2005 6:54:17 am PDT #825 of 10458
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

He thought that Buffy needed to focus on the fight and save the world without being distracted by the real long shot that Willow could resoul Angel.

Yeah, but a true friend doesn't decide for one what is best--they give one all the information and trust one's judgment. My friends don't make choices for me because that makes me powerless.