Mal: How drunk was I last night? Jayne: Well I dunno. I passed out.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 30, 2011 5:19:36 pm PST #8011 of 10459
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

They're allowed to talk about mental illness, they just can't use the word "crazy" - which is ableist, I guess.

Can I just say this sticks in my craw, and I've actually flown over the cuckoo's nest in the last 3 months.


§ ita § - Dec 30, 2011 5:20:42 pm PST #8012 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I would think so.

Okay, but I don't think that's what happened in the story.


sj - Dec 30, 2011 5:32:18 pm PST #8013 of 10459
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I rather think "batshit crazy" is accurate.

When it comes to Drusilla it really is the best term.


DCJensen - Dec 30, 2011 6:15:03 pm PST #8014 of 10459
All is well that ends in pizza.

I actually look forward to the subject. I would like to think that Mark will sit back and say, "Okay, crazy it is." IRT Dru.


Steph L. - Dec 30, 2011 6:19:27 pm PST #8015 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Is he okay with "insane" as a clinical term? I can't think of a way to describe Dru's clear break from reality without using "insane" or "crazy" or "psychotic" or something. I mean, I have no doubt she'd be diagnosed with at least one mental illness, if she didn't eat the shrink first.


DavidS - Dec 30, 2011 6:24:25 pm PST #8016 of 10459
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I mean, I have no doubt she'd be diagnosed with at least one mental illness, if she didn't eat the shrink first.

What does it mean when you're a vampire who can hear voices but you can also prophesize? I mean, on a sanity scale.


Steph L. - Dec 30, 2011 6:27:22 pm PST #8017 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

What does it mean when you're a vampire who can hear voices but you can also prophesize? I mean, on a sanity scale.

Well, before Angelus made her crazy (I remember him describing it to Buffy in some S2 episode, but I disremember which), she had visions, and they seemed to come true (or, if you will, be accurate visions). So that's not really mental illness, though I suppose at that time it would have been seen as such.

But Angelus really drove her around the bend. I don't know what it's called when someone has such a break with reality. That's not dissociative personality disorder, is it?


Zenkitty - Dec 30, 2011 6:29:29 pm PST #8018 of 10459
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Psychotic break. Saw my ex have one. Terrifying.

Dru also has Stockholm Syndrome, let's not forget!


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 30, 2011 6:31:43 pm PST #8019 of 10459
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

And a healthy dose of sadomasochism, too.


le nubian - Dec 30, 2011 6:33:58 pm PST #8020 of 10459
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

But didn't Dru have serious mental health problems when she was human? She had visions, but she didn't seem to be a-ok besides that or am I remembering wrong?

I think that when you are talking about a non-human, I don't think "ableist" language is even at issue.