Funny thing about black and white. You mix it together and you get gray. And it doesn't matter how much white you try and put back in, you're never gonna get anything but gray.

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


§ ita § - Dec 30, 2011 5:20:42 pm PST #8012 of 10606
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I would think so.

Okay, but I don't think that's what happened in the story.


sj - Dec 30, 2011 5:32:18 pm PST #8013 of 10606
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I rather think "batshit crazy" is accurate.

When it comes to Drusilla it really is the best term.


DCJensen - Dec 30, 2011 6:15:03 pm PST #8014 of 10606
All is well that ends in pizza.

I actually look forward to the subject. I would like to think that Mark will sit back and say, "Okay, crazy it is." IRT Dru.


Steph L. - Dec 30, 2011 6:19:27 pm PST #8015 of 10606
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Is he okay with "insane" as a clinical term? I can't think of a way to describe Dru's clear break from reality without using "insane" or "crazy" or "psychotic" or something. I mean, I have no doubt she'd be diagnosed with at least one mental illness, if she didn't eat the shrink first.


DavidS - Dec 30, 2011 6:24:25 pm PST #8016 of 10606
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I mean, I have no doubt she'd be diagnosed with at least one mental illness, if she didn't eat the shrink first.

What does it mean when you're a vampire who can hear voices but you can also prophesize? I mean, on a sanity scale.


Steph L. - Dec 30, 2011 6:27:22 pm PST #8017 of 10606
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

What does it mean when you're a vampire who can hear voices but you can also prophesize? I mean, on a sanity scale.

Well, before Angelus made her crazy (I remember him describing it to Buffy in some S2 episode, but I disremember which), she had visions, and they seemed to come true (or, if you will, be accurate visions). So that's not really mental illness, though I suppose at that time it would have been seen as such.

But Angelus really drove her around the bend. I don't know what it's called when someone has such a break with reality. That's not dissociative personality disorder, is it?


Zenkitty - Dec 30, 2011 6:29:29 pm PST #8018 of 10606
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Psychotic break. Saw my ex have one. Terrifying.

Dru also has Stockholm Syndrome, let's not forget!


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 30, 2011 6:31:43 pm PST #8019 of 10606
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

And a healthy dose of sadomasochism, too.


le nubian - Dec 30, 2011 6:33:58 pm PST #8020 of 10606
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

But didn't Dru have serious mental health problems when she was human? She had visions, but she didn't seem to be a-ok besides that or am I remembering wrong?

I think that when you are talking about a non-human, I don't think "ableist" language is even at issue.


Steph L. - Dec 30, 2011 6:34:05 pm PST #8021 of 10606
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

And a healthy dose of sadomasochism, too.

Well, none of those 4 are really right in the head when it comes to pain. It's kind of awesome.