I just said that you're pretty. Even when you're covered in...engine grease, you're... No, especially, especially when you're covered in engine grease.

Simon ,'Jaynestown'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Steph L. - Dec 30, 2011 6:19:27 pm PST #8015 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Is he okay with "insane" as a clinical term? I can't think of a way to describe Dru's clear break from reality without using "insane" or "crazy" or "psychotic" or something. I mean, I have no doubt she'd be diagnosed with at least one mental illness, if she didn't eat the shrink first.


DavidS - Dec 30, 2011 6:24:25 pm PST #8016 of 10459
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I mean, I have no doubt she'd be diagnosed with at least one mental illness, if she didn't eat the shrink first.

What does it mean when you're a vampire who can hear voices but you can also prophesize? I mean, on a sanity scale.


Steph L. - Dec 30, 2011 6:27:22 pm PST #8017 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

What does it mean when you're a vampire who can hear voices but you can also prophesize? I mean, on a sanity scale.

Well, before Angelus made her crazy (I remember him describing it to Buffy in some S2 episode, but I disremember which), she had visions, and they seemed to come true (or, if you will, be accurate visions). So that's not really mental illness, though I suppose at that time it would have been seen as such.

But Angelus really drove her around the bend. I don't know what it's called when someone has such a break with reality. That's not dissociative personality disorder, is it?


Zenkitty - Dec 30, 2011 6:29:29 pm PST #8018 of 10459
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Psychotic break. Saw my ex have one. Terrifying.

Dru also has Stockholm Syndrome, let's not forget!


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 30, 2011 6:31:43 pm PST #8019 of 10459
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

And a healthy dose of sadomasochism, too.


le nubian - Dec 30, 2011 6:33:58 pm PST #8020 of 10459
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

But didn't Dru have serious mental health problems when she was human? She had visions, but she didn't seem to be a-ok besides that or am I remembering wrong?

I think that when you are talking about a non-human, I don't think "ableist" language is even at issue.


Steph L. - Dec 30, 2011 6:34:05 pm PST #8021 of 10459
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And a healthy dose of sadomasochism, too.

Well, none of those 4 are really right in the head when it comes to pain. It's kind of awesome.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 30, 2011 6:35:53 pm PST #8022 of 10459
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

That's true, that may be a thing for vampires in general rather than Drusilla specifically.


§ ita § - Dec 30, 2011 6:36:52 pm PST #8023 of 10459
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But didn't Dru have serious mental health problems when she was human?

I was sure Angelus torturing her into a psychotic (ooh, yeah) break was a plot point. Lemme go see...no, wikipedia says she was driven insane by him.


Zenkitty - Dec 30, 2011 6:38:43 pm PST #8024 of 10459
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

But didn't Dru have serious mental health problems when she was human? She had visions, but she didn't seem to be a-ok besides that or am I remembering wrong?

My possibly-faulty memory tells me she had clairvoyant visions and therefore was told that she was possessed by the devil, or something horrific like that. So while she might have been basically sane, she was tormented both by visions she couldn't explain and by the belief that something evil had a hold of her.