The girl's not playing with a full deck, Giles. She has almost no deck. She has a three.

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Gus - May 14, 2005 7:43:18 pm PDT #782 of 10458
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Partial sex with Harmony ...

Wait. I can't get past 'partial sex'. That is an exceedingly strange phrase.

Everyone who had whole sex after the initial relationship wins.

All you partial sex proponents are welcome to a partial win.


§ ita § - May 14, 2005 7:50:48 pm PDT #783 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I bet Riley would have liked, in theory, to have had as intense sex with Buffy as Spike did.

Not that his grain-fed self could handle it, but still. Neither of the relationships (NONE of her relationships) were good healthy ones, but Riley could have benefitted from a bit of the old S&M with her. Vulnerability, et al.


Gus - May 14, 2005 8:13:49 pm PDT #784 of 10458
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

t kicks picture of Riley with Skinny Vampire Girl out of his head


Gris - May 14, 2005 8:57:12 pm PDT #785 of 10458
Hey. New board.

I bet Buffy and Riley had pretty intense sex in that one episode where their lust was supporting the pain of a thousand ghosts or whatever.

Man, I hated that episode.

But I hated Smashed more.

So Buffy+Riley intense sex is better than Buffy+Spike, by my logic.


§ ita § - May 14, 2005 8:58:51 pm PDT #786 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

For me it doesn't count as emotionally intense when you're possessed/driven by ghosts.

But that's just me and my sex life. I don't mean to speak for everyone.


Gris - May 14, 2005 9:17:13 pm PDT #787 of 10458
Hey. New board.

If I remember the episode correctly (doubtful), weren't the ghosts brought into a more powerful existence because of their lust first? They made them focus on it more, but it had to be there before they noticed. I mean, the ghosts weren't coming out for any of the other sex-having couples in that frat house, and there had to be several. Graham, at least, seemed like a playa. Even if you argue it was the Slayer, specifically, being lustful that caused them to latch on, it still seems she must have been feeling it pretty good.

t /still love Riley and screw you all


Gus - May 14, 2005 9:41:45 pm PDT #788 of 10458
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

There has to be some point to this conversation.

OK, maybe not.

BuffyNImmotal4EVAH!!!!one!


§ ita § - May 14, 2005 10:03:42 pm PDT #789 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hot sex does not have to be emotionally intense.


P.M. Marc - May 14, 2005 11:00:34 pm PDT #790 of 10458
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Hot sex does not have to be emotionally intense.

Too true.


Am-Chau Yarkona - May 14, 2005 11:02:46 pm PDT #791 of 10458
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Love's hard to quantify, but I think that she didn't love Riley as much as she wanted to, and that she loved Spike more than she wanted to.