Spike said "Cecily?" as a throw away line. Not a plot point, but canon. Fan service.
OMG DO NOT EVEN GET ME STARTED.
Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.
River ,'Objects In Space'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Nora Deirdre - Oct 13, 2010 7:29:23 am PDT #7562 of 10469
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Oct 13, 2010 7:59:41 am PDT #7563 of 10469
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"
OMG DO NOT EVEN GET ME STARTED.
This made you unhappy? I thought it was rather fun.
le nubian - Oct 13, 2010 9:15:58 am PDT #7564 of 10469
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
she said not to get her started and there you go. :-)
Nora Deirdre - Oct 13, 2010 9:23:52 am PDT #7565 of 10469
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)
I hated it with the burning hatred of a thousand suns. I did not like the sacrificing of story to fanwankery and wink wink nudge nudge. Are there not approximately a zillion actresses that could have played Halfrek or Cecily?
(you can probably find this more deeply bitched about by me during the actual season airing)
Steph L. - Oct 13, 2010 10:05:20 am PDT #7566 of 10469
I look more rad than Lutheranism
The same actor who played the crazy-pills vamp in "Helpless" played magic-isn't-a-drug-no-really pusher Rack in S6.
And while I know trying to reconcile those 2 characters would have been harder than reconciling Cecily and Halfrek, it probably could have been done -- but it wasn't. Because it didn't have to. Much like Cecily and Halfrek.
Which is to say, I agree with Nora.
t edit Actually, didn't the actor who played Andrew also play one of Harmony's minions in S4?
Frankenbuddha - Oct 13, 2010 10:23:45 am PDT #7567 of 10469
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Harmony? Has minions?!?!??!?
Jars - Oct 13, 2010 11:09:31 am PDT #7568 of 10469
I always assumed that Cecily had become a vengeance demon at some point after she knew William, which I thought was a nice thought because she must have been spurned the way she spurned Spike. I just use the word spurned in a sentence, twice.
Was Halfrek meant to be older than that and thus my theory doesn't work?
SailAweigh - Oct 13, 2010 11:16:52 am PDT #7569 of 10469
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
Was Halfrek meant to be older than that and thus my theory doesn't work?
I don't remember, but we know she was one by the time of the Russian Revolution from the Anya episode of season 7. I'm trying to remember if we were supposed to get a feeling that she was learning the ropes from Anya or if she'd been around for a while.
Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Oct 13, 2010 11:45:13 am PDT #7570 of 10469
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"
Fair 'nuff, Nora. I can see your point!
I always assumed that Cecily had become a vengeance demon at some point after she knew William, which I thought was a nice thought because she must have been spurned the way she spurned Spike.
I thought that too. But maybe I was reading in things that weren't there.
§ ita § - Oct 13, 2010 11:46:50 am PDT #7571 of 10469
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
She was already a vengeance demon at the time of the Crimean War, apparently, which means she was a demon by the time of Cecily.