What signs are those? I skimmed S5, and can't quite find any.
Early: You folks are all insane. Simon: Well, my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.
'Objects In Space'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
§ ita § - May 12, 2005 7:22:45 am PDT #707 of 10467
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Stephanie - May 12, 2005 7:29:08 am PDT #708 of 10467
Trust my rage
I always assumed that bedroom skills were the only reason Spike was with her.
Betsy HP - May 12, 2005 7:30:14 am PDT #709 of 10467
If I only had a brain...
But Spike is enough of a horndog that "willing" is probably sufficient; I don't see him holding out for "expert".
Lyra Jane - May 12, 2005 7:33:16 am PDT #710 of 10467
Up with the sun
I don't see Spike as being the world's greatest judge of bedroom skills, either. As far as we know, his experience at that point was pretty much Drusilla -- who doesn't strike me as an especially focused lover -- possibly being used as a toy by Darla and Angelus, and anyone he might have raped. Not exactly experiences likely to teach one the Kama Sutra.
Fred Pete - May 12, 2005 7:36:32 am PDT #711 of 10467
Ann, that's a ferret.
Not exactly experiences likely to teach one the Kama Sutra.
I'll add that William, being a middle-class Victorian male, probably had experiences with prostitutes. Which really doesn't change the above conclusion.
Lyra Jane - May 12, 2005 7:39:05 am PDT #712 of 10467
Up with the sun
I'll add that William, being a middle-class Victorian male, probably had experiences with prostitutes.
You think? I suppose statistically you're right, but I just see him as too much of a mama's boy for that.
Connie Neil - May 12, 2005 7:42:18 am PDT #713 of 10467
brillig
Hey, Spike's sex skills! always fun to discuss.
Fred Pete - May 12, 2005 7:43:12 am PDT #714 of 10467
Ann, that's a ferret.
You think?
Probably but not certainly. Being a mama's boy with Victorian attitudes, he certainly wouldn't have told her if he did.
§ ita § - May 12, 2005 7:48:25 am PDT #715 of 10467
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Being a mama's boy with Victorian attitudes, he certainly wouldn't have told her if he did.
He seemed so flummoxed by women -- not just by the politics of women of his own class, but by their very material existence.
Trudy Booth - May 12, 2005 7:51:34 am PDT #716 of 10467
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I doubt William had been with prostitutes considering his reaction when he thought Drusilla was one.