Except for the Master, were any of the leading character vampires ugly? Angel, Darla, Harmony, Drucilla, Buffy's school chums
Who was ugly and hated?
Wesley: Feng Shui. Gunn: Right. What's that mean again? Wesley: That people will believe anything. Actually, in this place, Feng Shui will probably have enormous significance. I'll align my furniture the wrong way and suddenly catch fire or turn into a pudding.
'Conviction (1)'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
beekaytee - Aug 24, 2007 8:29:48 am PDT #5252 of 10469
Compassionately intolerant
Vortex - Aug 24, 2007 8:31:41 am PDT #5253 of 10469
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Who was ugly and hated?
Warren
beekaytee - Aug 24, 2007 8:32:48 am PDT #5254 of 10469
Compassionately intolerant
Not a vamp though.
Vortex - Aug 24, 2007 8:38:32 am PDT #5255 of 10469
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Not a vamp though.
true, but your question was "Who was ugly and hated?" If you want an ugly vamp, I'll give you Dalton in Surprise.
Frankenbuddha - Aug 24, 2007 8:44:09 am PDT #5256 of 10469
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Also, Kakistos and whoever the vamp was in Helpless (is that the episode where Giles puts Buffy through the cruci-whatever-it-is ritual? Dear lord I'm rocking a huge case of medicine head + sleep dep today) Some of the shempires were gnarly.
Vortex - Aug 24, 2007 8:45:19 am PDT #5257 of 10469
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
actually, now that think about it, the Vessel was no cover boy, either
Frankenbuddha - Aug 24, 2007 8:46:45 am PDT #5258 of 10469
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
the Vessel
Luke, right, in WttHM? Damn, I really need to do a re-watch. I'm actually fogetting stuff I didn't even have to think about.
eta Like how to spell "forgetting" for example.
Vortex - Aug 24, 2007 8:49:43 am PDT #5259 of 10469
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Luke, right, in WttHM?
Yes, his name escaped me, but I knew that someone would know it.
beekaytee - Aug 24, 2007 9:24:35 am PDT #5260 of 10469
Compassionately intolerant
true, but your question was "Who was ugly and hated?" If you want an ugly vamp, I'll give you Dalton in Surprise.
I was responding directly to Marster's comment about Joss' attitude towards vampires, which I attempted to refute. The comment was:
Every character on the show was a version of Joss, but Joss didn't see Spike that way. Spike was the other guy. He was the guy who might mess up the show, actually, because vampires are supposed to be ugly and hated. emphasis mine
It just struck me as an odd comment from an actor who gained 'pretty boy' status from playing a character that Joss wrote.
I'm reading subtext into it that may not be there, but it seems as if JM felt under appreciated for the contribution he brought to what was originally planned as a 'throwaway' character. In the commentaries and interviews I've seen, Joss seemed to actively value Spike's development...aka, Marster's spin on him.
Polter-Cow - Aug 24, 2007 10:01:12 am PDT #5261 of 10469
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Yeah, I'm reading that same sort of subtext too, Beej, and I'm pretty surprised. Joss seemed to love Spike, from what I could tell.