Bar maid! Bring me stronger ale! And some plump, succulent babies to eat!

Olaf the Troll ,'Showtime'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Polter-Cow - Aug 24, 2007 6:53:29 am PDT #5250 of 10469
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Ooh, Strega. I love that. And that's why I love Angel more than Spike.

Matt also makes a good point about sires.


Sue - Aug 24, 2007 8:21:26 am PDT #5251 of 10469
hip deep in pie

There's an interview with James Marsters on EW.com. (spoilery for some JM casting news) He says some interesting things about Joss and Spike. [link]

[But] I don't think the character of Spike really sparked Joss' imagination. I think that he was designed to be a throwaway character that got popular with the fans. Personally, he never really got into him. Every character on the show was a version of Joss, but Joss didn't see Spike that way. Spike was the other guy. He was the guy who might mess up the show, actually, because vampires are supposed to be ugly and hated.


beekaytee - Aug 24, 2007 8:29:48 am PDT #5252 of 10469
Compassionately intolerant

Except for the Master, were any of the leading character vampires ugly? Angel, Darla, Harmony, Drucilla, Buffy's school chums

Who was ugly and hated?


Vortex - Aug 24, 2007 8:31:41 am PDT #5253 of 10469
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Who was ugly and hated?

Warren


beekaytee - Aug 24, 2007 8:32:48 am PDT #5254 of 10469
Compassionately intolerant

Not a vamp though.


Vortex - Aug 24, 2007 8:38:32 am PDT #5255 of 10469
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Not a vamp though.

true, but your question was "Who was ugly and hated?" If you want an ugly vamp, I'll give you Dalton in Surprise.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 24, 2007 8:44:09 am PDT #5256 of 10469
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Also, Kakistos and whoever the vamp was in Helpless (is that the episode where Giles puts Buffy through the cruci-whatever-it-is ritual? Dear lord I'm rocking a huge case of medicine head + sleep dep today) Some of the shempires were gnarly.


Vortex - Aug 24, 2007 8:45:19 am PDT #5257 of 10469
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

actually, now that think about it, the Vessel was no cover boy, either


Frankenbuddha - Aug 24, 2007 8:46:45 am PDT #5258 of 10469
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

the Vessel

Luke, right, in WttHM? Damn, I really need to do a re-watch. I'm actually fogetting stuff I didn't even have to think about.

eta Like how to spell "forgetting" for example.


Vortex - Aug 24, 2007 8:49:43 am PDT #5259 of 10469
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Luke, right, in WttHM?

Yes, his name escaped me, but I knew that someone would know it.