Oh, yes. I think so too, Vortex. I think he knew he was betraying their relationship and her trust in him. I just think the CoW probably kept him in the dark as to the underlying, dark purpose of the cruciamentum which is to kill off an ineffective slayer, which clears the field, allowing for a new one to be called.

I just think the CoW probably kept him in the dark as to the underlying, dark purpose of the cruciamentum which is to kill off an ineffective slayer, which clears the field, allowing for a new one to be called.

That's the impression I got as well.

Vincent Schiavelli, the character actor who played Jenny Calendar's Uncle Enyos in Surprise and Innocence died today, at his home in Sicily. [link]

I watched Smile Time this morning for the first time in a long while. I have to admit, it's probably taken its place as my favorite episode of Angel.

It was the first ep I watched when I got my S5 DVDs. Sometimes when I'm feeling grumpy I'll watch it and sing along to the self-esteem song.

The line "I'm gonna tear you a new puppet hole, Bitch" just makes me laugh and laugh. Sometimes, thinking of it is the only thing that gets me through the million episodes of Sesame Street I have to watch every week.

I've always wondered how Wolfram & Hart spun one of its prominent lawyers recognizably appearing on the show's last episode (well, I'd assume it as such, anyway) hacking the puppet hosts to bits.

t meMeME Ignoring any ongoing conversation that may be taking place right now, in order to exploit the hivemind: What do you think about Angel's choice to join W&H, in retrospect? I mean, I think he had done it because that was the only way he could see to save Connor (much like ita pointed out way upthread), but I also think it was a big part in his loss-of-his-way all throughout the 5th season, but I also think that in a sort of "looking from the outside" way, it fit his being a vampire. He got his physical advantages, the skills he uses in his fight, from his vampirism, so for him the way of fighting evil by its own strengths, so to speak, is what he's been doing for a while. So joining the law firm and fighting the system from within is in a way continuing what he's been doing, only on a different scale. Of course, I'm wondering what you guys may think.

Also, regarding his decision at the end of the series. To me, it looks like trying to prove the "if nothing that you do matters, all that matters is what you do" theme, in the very sense of fighting in order to show that you can still fight, even if you can't guarantee a victory. But, again, I don't care about what I think, I know that already, I'm more interested in what other people may have to say.

Thanks, in advance!

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Matt, what's your tag line from? It cracks me up every time I see it.

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Nilly, what you posted there has me thinking. In a way, Angel (and the others) being at W&H is almost like an inverse of Angel's own situation. Angel is someone on the side of good who is constantly having to fight against the darkness inside him and trying to bend it to his will. At W&H, he and the others are a bit of goodness inside an entity that is generally evil and that wants to bend them to its will and ways. Of course, things aren't quite so neatly dualistic as all that, but by being at W&H, it does put Angel neatly between a rock and a hard place when it comes to being pulled towards the darkness.

I think Angel was good with the decision to join W&H, because I think he'd willingly trade all the MoG's lives for one happy Connor life. Which is what he did.

Good job, Champion.