I don't like vampires. I'm gonna take a stand and say they're not good.

Xander ,'Beneath You'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Vortex - Oct 19, 2005 6:52:43 am PDT #2177 of 10459
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

What was your favorite HSQ moment from Buffy?

So many -- angel/angelus, Giles (not ripper) smothering Ben, "I'd Like to test that theory", Buffy jumping in The Gift.

Angel -- throwing the cigarette on Darla and Drusilla, Doyle saving the day


Maria - Oct 19, 2005 7:16:32 am PDT #2178 of 10459
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

You want me to pick just one?

Buffy - The entire Angelus arc. Even though I was never a big fan of Jenny Calendar, her violent end and the subsequent torture (physical and mental) of Giles was jaw-droppingly good TV.

Angel - Either the firing of the MoG, or Wesley meets pillow. Not surprisingly, La Tep and I are of one mind: it was shocking because it was family.


Sean K - Oct 19, 2005 7:45:14 am PDT #2179 of 10459
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Buffy - "I'd like to test that theory." I think I screamed really really loudly when that happened.

I sort of saw Buffy's swan dive coming from the moment they revealed that Dawn wasn't real. It just made good story. Buffy would have to love the key as if she was really her sister in order to save the world, which (in my head) meant dying in her stead.

Angel - Locking lawyers in the cellar.


JenP - Oct 19, 2005 7:57:43 am PDT #2180 of 10459

The two that absolutely, positively took me by complete and utter surprise:

Buffy - "I'd like to test that theory." Could practically hear the chorus of "GILES!!!!" sound far and wide.

Angel - Dru vamping Darla. Just so cruelly perfect that twist was.

And since I came to Buffy late, I didn't get the benefit of a lot of HSQ moments being truly unexpected. Still, Giles made me so happy that time. Awwww.


Amy - Oct 19, 2005 8:17:57 am PDT #2181 of 10459
Because books.

This question is too hard.

Buffy: A toss-up between Angelus snapping Jenny's neck, and Angel dropping in from hell, naked. I want to say it's Giles's "I'd like to test that theory," but I knew he was coming back. I squeed, but I wasn't surprised.

Angel: The pillow is it, although locking the lawyers in with Darla and Dru is a close second.


Lee - Oct 19, 2005 8:28:21 am PDT #2182 of 10459
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

This question is too hard.

Hee. I thought maybe making it "favorite" instead of biggest or most important would help. Guess not.


SailAweigh - Oct 19, 2005 8:29:16 am PDT #2183 of 10459
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I came into Buffy late and internet fandom even later. But, once I did I become one of the most thouroughly spoiled on the current seasons (6 and 7, for me.) Fortunately, I didn't find the internet sites until after I'd watched numerous reruns on FX. In fact, my first ever viewing day provided a heck of an HSQ moment for me. I was watching a Thanksgiving Day marathon and since they skipped a lot of episodes, my biggest HSQ was watching Buffy vs. Dracula and at the very end Dawn shows up. Since I didn't have the benefit of the entire earlier seasons (only the select episodes shown up to that point) to know of all the foreshadowing and was totally unspoiled, both my daughter and I turned to each other and said, "WTF? Buffy doesn't have a sister?!?"

By the time I started watching Angel (season 4), I had read so much of the earlier stuff and was so spoiled there was really very little that made me sit up and take notice. So, the only HSQ moment I can honestly remember was in season 5 and that was during the opening to Power Play where Angel bites Drogan. I never expected that, I didn't think Angel had changed so much he would do the expediant thing rather than the right thing. I was sad, angry and so disappointed at that moment, I almost didn't want to watch that or the final episode. I felt like we were getting regurgitated season 2 and it stung. I realized some of that was because they had to wrap the season up so quickly, but still. It was HSQ on a couple of levels for me, actual doing and narrative-wise.


Gris - Oct 19, 2005 8:41:15 am PDT #2184 of 10459
Hey. New board.

Yeah, 'WTF SISTER?!?!" is my favorite HSQ moment in Buffy, too. It's just so... weird. Sadly, "Two to Go" was my first Buffy episode ever, and I had no clue what was going on at all, so "GILES!" did nothing for me.

In Angel, nothing ever went as far as Doyle's early death for me, though a really large portion of Season 2 came very close.


Amy - Oct 19, 2005 8:49:17 am PDT #2185 of 10459
Because books.

Yeah, 'WTF SISTER?!?!" is my favorite HSQ moment in Buffy, too. It's just so... weird.

Ack. I totally forgot that one. Maybe because I'm not a huge Dawn fan. But I was unspoiled for that, and I was like, "OMGWTF?!"


P.M. Marc - Oct 19, 2005 9:35:19 am PDT #2186 of 10459
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I will say again that Wesley's introduction on Angel made me about fall off my couch, which just goes to show I should sit further back.

However, it wasn't the same sort of !!!... !!! moment as the pillow.

HSQ, in general, was less effective for me on BtVS. I think most of the things that would have seriously made me yelp happened in S2, when I was a much more casual viewer and not invested enough to care.