This here's a recipe for unpleasantness.

Mal ,'Objects In Space'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 15, 2005 5:13:49 am PDT #1900 of 10458
What is even happening?

Entropy is a Season Six episode. It came right after Normal Again and before Seeing Red. I think it's the first time we see Anya after Hell's Bells. She's trying to exact vengeance on Xander, and ends up sleeping with Spike at the magic shop. Everyone sees it, thanks to the cameras the nerds planted everywhere. At the end of it, Tara comes to Willow and says the, "Things fall apart..." yada yada "it's a long important process, and can we just skip it? Can you just be kissing me, now?" bit, which is how I remember the title of this one with the episode. Otherwise, I wouldn't have a clue.

sorry for the xpost


Allyson - Aug 15, 2005 9:36:06 am PDT #1901 of 10458
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Slayage Conference Call for Papers

Someone should go and then report back. And tell me if it was all kraxy or interesting.


joe boucher - Aug 15, 2005 10:36:28 am PDT #1902 of 10458
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

Slayage Conference

Sounds like the serial killers' convention in The Doll's House (Gaiman's Sandman). "Our next speaker is Mr. Corinthian."


sumi - Aug 15, 2005 10:42:29 am PDT #1903 of 10458
Art Crawl!!!

Pictures of Seth Green with various members of INXS and contestants from RS:INXS.


DebetEsse - Aug 15, 2005 3:47:16 pm PDT #1904 of 10458
Woe to the fucking wicked.

But is lacks the punniness, Joe


Polter-Cow - Aug 15, 2005 5:55:21 pm PDT #1905 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Okay, eirefaerie was reliving the days of badfic on TWoP, and she posted the links to two hilariously bad pieces I thought I'd share:

"THE BEATLES 100 VAMPIRES 0," in which it is discovered that vampires hate the Beatles.

"Xander's Guardian Angel," the sequel, in which it is discovered that John Lennon is Xander's guardian angel.


Strega - Aug 15, 2005 6:22:03 pm PDT #1906 of 10458

Oh my god! I read those years ago and still quote them sometimes. So beautiful.


Volans - Aug 16, 2005 1:33:53 am PDT #1907 of 10458
move out and draw fire

I agree. I don't think though, that every story has to be socially responsible. It's fiction. If Buffy weren't put forth as take-back-the-night girl, my expectations of how she would be presented would have been different, and on plot points like her reaction to Spike after the rape attempt, they would be lower. If you're telling random individual's story, and that random individual isn't being put forth as a hero, you could actually have her be happy she was forced into sex/raped. I probably wouldn't want to read it, but that's a different issue.

I completely agree. Stephen R. Donaldson wrote a science-fiction series about 10 years ago that people kept trying to get me to read, and, due to the continual rape of the major female character, I just couldn't. I mean, I threw Lord Foul's Bane across the room when the hero raped the girl, but on later reading I got that he was an anti-hero and pays for the rape, over and over. But in this new series I was supposed to somehow be impressed by the woman being raped repeatedly? Nah.

I think Noxon et al did something unintended with the Spike/Buffy relationship though. What you end up getting is a statement that this Take-Back-the-Night heroine is damaged goods, and that's kind of an interesting statement. Heroes used to have to be perfect; now we've got a hero who clearly has issues, but is still a hero. Buffy frequently was bitchy, also interesting in a hero, but her relationship with Spike after the rape attempt made her interesting three-dimensional. It's even more Take-Back-the-Night, in a way, saying that you can be pretty fucked up and still be a hero if you choose to be.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 16, 2005 3:50:43 am PDT #1908 of 10458
What is even happening?

I think Noxon et al did something unintended with the Spike/Buffy relationship though. What you end up getting is a statement that this Take-Back-the-Night heroine is damaged goods, and that's kind of an interesting statement. Heroes used to have to be perfect; now we've got a hero who clearly has issues, but is still a hero. Buffy frequently was bitchy, also interesting in a hero, but her relationship with Spike after the rape attempt made her interesting three-dimensional. It's even more Take-Back-the-Night, in a way, saying that you can be pretty fucked up and still be a hero if you choose to be.
I agree with this. But if they'd given us a grand romance with Spike and Buffy in season seven, I might have felt differently.


Betsy HP - Aug 16, 2005 7:48:07 am PDT #1909 of 10458
If I only had a brain...

Anybody who wants Willow jewelry (which was much less tragic than Willow clothing), look here: [link]

I have several Peggy Li pieces and am very fond of them.