Get up...get up, you stupid piece of... What did you do that for? What's wrong with you? Didn't you hear a word he said? All of you! You think there's someone just going to drop money on you?! Money they could use?! Well, there ain't people like that. There's just people like me.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


brenda m - Aug 09, 2005 10:34:09 am PDT #1780 of 10464
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

So if she was being manipulative, it was on the hell dimension argument. And that's possible. Willow should have known that there were a lot of dimensions out there, and not all of them were hell-y (remember the "world without shrimp"?).

I'm no defender of Willow generally, but I can see where they went down this road without thinking it through, on the theory that "sucked into" doesn't imply a happy place. Especially when the whole thing was orchestrated by Glory, and with the examples they had of things coming out of the rift.


§ ita § - Aug 09, 2005 10:34:12 am PDT #1781 of 10464
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Angel dust!


Typo Boy - Aug 09, 2005 10:36:34 am PDT #1782 of 10464
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

They really did have every reason to think she was in a hell dimension. Because her being in a heaven dimension under the circumstances a universe with a modicum of justice - which under the circustances did not mesh with their experiences.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 09, 2005 10:36:40 am PDT #1783 of 10464
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Angel dust!

Depending on how events after NOT FADE AWAY turned out, that could be literally so.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 09, 2005 10:56:11 am PDT #1784 of 10464
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The episodes where he gets staked or decapitated are always fun.


Jessica - Aug 10, 2005 8:01:36 am PDT #1785 of 10464
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Interview by DH w/ DB re his new show Bones (there's an Angel question, so I figure it fits in here)


ChiKat - Aug 10, 2005 10:16:43 am PDT #1786 of 10464
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

RE: Bones

I've read a couple of Kathy Reichs' books on Temperance Brennan. They're pretty good, so hopefully the show will follow suit.


§ ita § - Aug 10, 2005 10:21:14 am PDT #1787 of 10464
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Not based on the pilot.


joe boucher - Aug 10, 2005 10:25:39 am PDT #1788 of 10464
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

Not based on the pilot.

The pilot isn't very good or it doesn't follow the books?


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 10, 2005 10:37:37 am PDT #1789 of 10464
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I've heard it stinks worse than circa 1995 rat-eating Angel must have.