I think Willow tampered with Tara's mind and with all of their minds where the resurrection spell was concerned, but only in conventional ways. She manipulated and withheld information, and generally exploited their trust in her. I'm not sure if she outright lied about any of the details. I haven't watched S6, in a long time.

I think Willow tampered with Tara's mind and with all of their minds where the resurrection spell was concerned, but only in conventional ways. She manipulated and withheld information, and generally exploited their trust in her. I'm not sure if she outright lied about any of the details. I haven't watched S6, in a long time.

Why would you presume she'd have to tamper with their minds to get them to go along? It really doesn't seem out of character for Xander and Tara to defer to her in Giles' absence.

Willow's key arguments were "We need her," and "She's being tormented in a hell dimension." The first was true (but that doesn't mean it was sufficient to justify bringing Buffy back).

So if she was being manipulative, it was on the hell dimension argument. And that's possible. Willow should have known that there were a lot of dimensions out there, and not all of them were hell-y (remember the "world without shrimp"?).

Xander, and Tara to a lesser extent, may have bought Willow's argument -- and Xander in particular may have made the decision first and sought the reason later. But Anya definitely should have seen the logical flaw in Willow's argument -- she's had first-hand experience of "many dimensions."

Maybe nto tamper with Xander, so much, but I don't buy shyness and a habit of conceding to Willow as sufficient to make Tara willing to do a resurrection--especially after Tara was so adamant about the wrongness of bringing back Joyce. I wonder if it got out that Dawn did it anyway and how. I don't see Tara conceding a major moral point just to make Willow stop pouting.

ust parroting my earlier comment that I think Tara's lines in "Bargaining" made it pretty clear that she had a good idea how dangerous and wrong their plans re; Buffy were, and chose to hop on the tombstone-rolling bandwagon anyway.

I also think that Tara wanted desperately to fit in, and arguing against bringing Buffy back would have been counter productive.

I acknowledge all the arguments about Willow. It was that until the addiction thing which started with the Tara mind-wipe, I did not care. Basically it took the mind-wipe to shock me out of Willow worship.

Also it's crapshoot with bringing Buffy back. We know that a certain percentage of other dimensions are unspeakably horrible. We also know this one isn't. So do we leave Buffy someplace ont he hope that it's NOT horrible, or bring her back where we KNOW she'll be okay?

So if she was being manipulative, it was on the hell dimension argument.

I don't see any reason to think that she was lying here. Not thinking things through, sure; not thinking as she should about the possible negative consequences of what she did, definitely; but I think her intentions were good.

So do we leave Buffy someplace ont he hope that it's NOT horrible, or bring her back where we KNOW she'll be okay?

I think that the definition of "okay" is relative. She'll still be the Slayer, still putting her life in danger every day.

Although, I think that it was not a baseless assumption that Buffy was in a hell dimension. She died closing the door to one, so it wasn't unreasonable to think that she might have ended up there.

but I think her intentions were good.

you know what the say about the road to a hell dimension . . .