I'm just, uh, just feeling kinda... truthsome right now. And, uh... life's just too damn short for ifs and maybes.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 08, 2005 3:56:28 am PDT #1713 of 10458
What is even happening?

Heh. I was going to mention Giles, except that I don't think there's anything that needs to be blindspotted where Giles is concerned.

Okay, my own words convict me. I would like to know though, what about Giles needs overlooking [in the way we have to overlook Willow's self-centeredness; Xander's self-righteousness; or Buffy's [whatever it is, I know she's my blindspot)]?


DebetEsse - Aug 08, 2005 4:00:41 am PDT #1714 of 10458
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I think (and this is before S6, where the meta just overwhelms the character) that most of Giles' faults are of either the over-protectiveness or the thinking-he-knows-what's-best-being-the-Watcher-and-all variety, so...hmm...failing to trust the kids, at times, maybe?


Topic!Cindy - Aug 08, 2005 4:02:00 am PDT #1715 of 10458
What is even happening?

cereal--Raq asked:

So, playing the role of Perkins, which Buffyverse chacter do fans have the biggest blindspot for? Or, which character do you, dear Reader, have a blindspot for?

I still want to hear more answers on this, but I'm also wondering, which character is everyone's anti-blindspot. That is, which one do you see (and you don't have to hate the character, you can even love the character) and think, "Oh sorry, but you don't fool me?" I guess my anti-blindspot characters are Willow and Jenny, and I've gone on about why enough, already.

Also, if you have an anti-blindspot character, do you maybe see something in that character that maps to someone you know in real life (or even yourself)?


DebetEsse - Aug 08, 2005 4:10:13 am PDT #1716 of 10458
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Giles is, on Buffy, my blindspot. The closest thing I have, on Angel, is probably Lorne.

Anti-blind spot--Andrew, for late season Buffy. Probably Buffy herself, a lot (She did make me say, "The Hell?" pretty regularly). On Angel, I'd have to go with Connor, I think.


-t - Aug 08, 2005 5:44:06 am PDT #1717 of 10458
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Classic fandom? Willow.

Post-modern fandom? Spike.

What do you mean by those distinctions, Cindy?

I guess my blind spot would have to be Angel shaped, because I still have trouble with the idea that locking Holling etc. in with Darla & Dru was more than a little bad.

I'm probably not insightful enough to have an anti-blindspot. They all take me in to some degree.


DebetEsse - Aug 08, 2005 5:50:48 am PDT #1718 of 10458
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I guess I'm with you, -t, beacuse, me, neither. I mean, they were actively eeeevil . I mean, I know, human, but still, not all that bad


brenda m - Aug 08, 2005 5:55:48 am PDT #1719 of 10458
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I can tell, as if I couldn't already, that my blind spot is Xander shaped, because my anti-blindspots mostly have to do with actions on the part of other characters directed against him.


Vonnie K - Aug 08, 2005 6:06:38 am PDT #1720 of 10458
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Definitely Wesley. Though... doesn't "blind-spots" imply that you are oblivious to the character's faults? Through most of late S3 to S5, I fully realized that Wesley was fucked-up, possibly beyond recall. Which actually made me love him more, but it's not as if I went, "Oh yeah, that bitch Justine totally needed to be chained in the closet with a bucket."


Anne W. - Aug 08, 2005 6:13:00 am PDT #1721 of 10458
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Through most of late S3 to S5, I fully realized that Wesley was fucked-up, possibly beyond recall. Which actually made me love him more

Yeah. It's one of those situations where the character became more appealing as a character while at the same time becoming the person you'd stay well away from in real life. It's sort of the way I love the character of Macbeth but never in a million years would want or expect a happy ending for the guy.

In Buffy S5 (and early S6), I kept rooting for Spike to become a better person, but with Wesley, I found myself cheering on his fall from grace.


brenda m - Aug 08, 2005 6:17:13 am PDT #1722 of 10458
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Though... doesn't "blind-spots" imply that you are oblivious to the character's faults?

I'm taking it as not so much oblivious, but inclined to rationalize or hand-wave.