Maybe I've always been here.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2005 6:19:00 am PDT #1723 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think I've blindspotted -- well, maybe Lindsey. But when my efforts to keep enjoying them as I like them most, I just shrug and say "Well, Spike up through season 4." I liked the bad stuff about the characters I like the most.


Sean K - Aug 08, 2005 6:32:05 am PDT #1724 of 10458
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Okay, my own words convict me. I would like to know though, what about Giles needs overlooking

How about the attempted murder of Spike, which, had it occurred, would have prevented the saving of the world.

My anti-blind spot would be the wee woobieman Connor. I'd go into reasons why, but I must away for work.


Jessica - Aug 08, 2005 6:49:10 am PDT #1725 of 10458
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I also have a bit of an Anya blindspot. I know she's responsible for more deaths than probably all of the other characters except Angel combined, but I identify with her too much to care.

(But at least I'm aware of what I'm handwaving with her. With Connor, I have no idea what about him I'm supposed to find less than lovable.)


Sean K - Aug 08, 2005 7:05:45 am PDT #1726 of 10458
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

With Connor, I have no idea what about him I'm supposed to find less than lovable.

Which is almost precisely why he's my anti-blind spot. I have no idea if he did anything worth hating him for, he just bugged me. Whiny kid....


Sean K - Aug 08, 2005 7:06:42 am PDT #1727 of 10458
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

(I did think he was cool as Normal!Well-Adjusted!Connor in Not Fade Away, though.)


Vortex - Aug 08, 2005 7:15:36 am PDT #1728 of 10458
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

(I did think he was cool as Normal!Well-Adjusted!Connor in Not Fade Away, though.)

yes, normal Connor is okay. I especially loved the "You stop by for coffee and the world's not ending? Please." Although I disliked him intensely until that point.

I never like characters that are easily manipulated. It irritates me.


ChiKat - Aug 08, 2005 7:28:01 am PDT #1729 of 10458
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Which is almost precisely why he's my anti-blind spot. I have no idea if he did anything worth hating him for, he just bugged me. Whiny kid....

Sean speaks for me re:Connor. I don't know why he bugs me like he does, but mercy. I don't like that kid at all.

My blindspot? Probably Giles. Although, on S2 rewatch, I'm miffed at him in his treatment to Jenny. After Buffy finds out that Jenny knew about Angel, B shuns her and G follows. I can understand B, she's a teenager. But G? Jenny didn't know what would happen until it was too late. How would things have changed if she told G&B that she was there to watch Angel? They already knew everything Jenny did. [sorry--side rant!]


Frankenbuddha - Aug 08, 2005 7:29:21 am PDT #1730 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I would like to know though, what about Giles needs overlooking [in the way we have to overlook Willow's self-centeredness; Xander's self-righteousness; or Buffy's [whatever it is, I know she's my blindspot)]?

Giles biggest weakness, IMO, was giving Xander inordinate amounts of shit for things that, compared to what Willow was getting away with, were minor in comparison, and generally not taking more notice of what Willow was up to despite being the one to introduce her to the heavy duty magic. I would still say he's the least flawed of the Sunnydale congtingent.

I think somehow my blind spot mus be Spike, since I've been able to pretty much wank all the objections people have about how he didn't get staked back in the day (whichever day that was - season 4, 5 or 6).


DebetEsse - Aug 08, 2005 7:31:09 am PDT #1731 of 10458
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I never like characters that are easily manipulated. It irritates me.

This, for me, was a lot of it. There was also the, "For the love of God, boy, grow a brain! You must take a moment, chill, and actually assess the world around you! Also, stop randomly beating on people!"


Lee - Aug 08, 2005 8:44:02 am PDT #1732 of 10458
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Giles biggest weakness, IMO, was giving Xander inordinate amounts of shit for things that, compared to what Willow was getting away with, were minor in comparison, and generally not taking more notice of what Willow was up to despite being the one to introduce her to the heavy duty magic. I would still say he's the least flawed of the Sunnydale congtingent.

What Frankenbuddha said.