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Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

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Topic!Cindy - Aug 08, 2005 4:02:00 am PDT #1715 of 10458
What is even happening?

cereal--Raq asked:

So, playing the role of Perkins, which Buffyverse chacter do fans have the biggest blindspot for? Or, which character do you, dear Reader, have a blindspot for?

I still want to hear more answers on this, but I'm also wondering, which character is everyone's anti-blindspot. That is, which one do you see (and you don't have to hate the character, you can even love the character) and think, "Oh sorry, but you don't fool me?" I guess my anti-blindspot characters are Willow and Jenny, and I've gone on about why enough, already.

Also, if you have an anti-blindspot character, do you maybe see something in that character that maps to someone you know in real life (or even yourself)?


DebetEsse - Aug 08, 2005 4:10:13 am PDT #1716 of 10458
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Giles is, on Buffy, my blindspot. The closest thing I have, on Angel, is probably Lorne.

Anti-blind spot--Andrew, for late season Buffy. Probably Buffy herself, a lot (She did make me say, "The Hell?" pretty regularly). On Angel, I'd have to go with Connor, I think.


-t - Aug 08, 2005 5:44:06 am PDT #1717 of 10458
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Classic fandom? Willow.

Post-modern fandom? Spike.

What do you mean by those distinctions, Cindy?

I guess my blind spot would have to be Angel shaped, because I still have trouble with the idea that locking Holling etc. in with Darla & Dru was more than a little bad.

I'm probably not insightful enough to have an anti-blindspot. They all take me in to some degree.


DebetEsse - Aug 08, 2005 5:50:48 am PDT #1718 of 10458
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I guess I'm with you, -t, beacuse, me, neither. I mean, they were actively eeeevil . I mean, I know, human, but still, not all that bad


brenda m - Aug 08, 2005 5:55:48 am PDT #1719 of 10458
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I can tell, as if I couldn't already, that my blind spot is Xander shaped, because my anti-blindspots mostly have to do with actions on the part of other characters directed against him.


Vonnie K - Aug 08, 2005 6:06:38 am PDT #1720 of 10458
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Definitely Wesley. Though... doesn't "blind-spots" imply that you are oblivious to the character's faults? Through most of late S3 to S5, I fully realized that Wesley was fucked-up, possibly beyond recall. Which actually made me love him more, but it's not as if I went, "Oh yeah, that bitch Justine totally needed to be chained in the closet with a bucket."


Anne W. - Aug 08, 2005 6:13:00 am PDT #1721 of 10458
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Through most of late S3 to S5, I fully realized that Wesley was fucked-up, possibly beyond recall. Which actually made me love him more

Yeah. It's one of those situations where the character became more appealing as a character while at the same time becoming the person you'd stay well away from in real life. It's sort of the way I love the character of Macbeth but never in a million years would want or expect a happy ending for the guy.

In Buffy S5 (and early S6), I kept rooting for Spike to become a better person, but with Wesley, I found myself cheering on his fall from grace.


brenda m - Aug 08, 2005 6:17:13 am PDT #1722 of 10458
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Though... doesn't "blind-spots" imply that you are oblivious to the character's faults?

I'm taking it as not so much oblivious, but inclined to rationalize or hand-wave.


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2005 6:19:00 am PDT #1723 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think I've blindspotted -- well, maybe Lindsey. But when my efforts to keep enjoying them as I like them most, I just shrug and say "Well, Spike up through season 4." I liked the bad stuff about the characters I like the most.


Sean K - Aug 08, 2005 6:32:05 am PDT #1724 of 10458
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Okay, my own words convict me. I would like to know though, what about Giles needs overlooking

How about the attempted murder of Spike, which, had it occurred, would have prevented the saving of the world.

My anti-blind spot would be the wee woobieman Connor. I'd go into reasons why, but I must away for work.