Just call me the computer whisperer.

Willow ,'Lessons'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Fred Pete - Jun 28, 2005 9:30:13 am PDT #1272 of 10458
Ann, that's a ferret.

I like Frank's idea. Assuming SMG were available.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 28, 2005 9:31:28 am PDT #1273 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Should we mix A:ts in, right from the beginning, or when we get to BtVS season 4?

I'm currently doing this with a friend of mine, and for the first season or so of Angel especially, it really makes more sense to wait until the right era.

We're on seasons 5 and 2, respecitively, right now, and I'm glad we held off on Angel, if only for Fool For Love and Darla going back to back.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 28, 2005 9:37:10 am PDT #1274 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I like Frank's idea. Assuming SMG were available.

However, if it meant losing the Fred/Wes/Burkles stuff completely, I wouldn't change it around - that was by far the most important part of that episode, at least for me. I think that could have worked with any episode where Angel was otherwise occupied, though.


Steph L. - Jun 28, 2005 10:23:31 am PDT #1275 of 10458
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I can't do watch and post while it's going on. And a lot of the fun of watch and post (at least when I read through it) seems to be the surprises. For most of us, we're not going to have that with Buffy and Angel. We could start a rewatch thingie though, and do it right in this thread, and whoever wanted to could make it a watch-n-post experience, too.

I think that's a great idea!

Maybe once a month?


Topic!Cindy - Jun 28, 2005 10:26:26 am PDT #1276 of 10458
What is even happening?

I'm sorry. I was falling in love with your tag. Did you say something?


Jessica - Jun 28, 2005 10:28:11 am PDT #1277 of 10458
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Assuming SMG were available.

Why? She wasn't in the ep.


§ ita § - Jun 28, 2005 10:42:24 am PDT #1278 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

She wasn't in the ep.

Which, to me, was a contributor to the suckage.

Hell, just knowing it was the back of her head would have eased my eye-rolling.

A little.


Jessica - Jun 28, 2005 10:45:32 am PDT #1279 of 10458
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Which, to me, was a contributor to the suckage.

Oh, I agree. But her presence isn't necessary just to move the ep up in the season.


Strega - Jun 28, 2005 10:54:38 am PDT #1280 of 10458

Since several people mentioned liking the TGiQ subplot with Illyria & Fred's parents... could someone elaborate on that? I know my feelings for the characters involved didn't make me terribly receptive to that story, but I'd like to at least understand what other people got from it, even if I can't feel it myself. For me, those scenes were far more unpleasant to watch than the Italian hijinks.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 28, 2005 10:56:45 am PDT #1281 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

There was the cool shock value, and getting to watch Wesley's pained response, and seeing the wheels turning in Illyria's mind as it started exploring opportunities to manipulate and influence people that didn't rely on overwhelming brute force.