My heart expands / 'tis grown a bulge in't / inspired by / your beauty effulgent.

William ,'Conversations with Dead People'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


ChiKat - Mar 21, 2005 9:00:05 am PST #9130 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Or doesn't draw focus,

Absolutely. And, if you're working with a poopiehead actor who does this on purpose, hopefully your director will help with that.


ChiKat - Mar 21, 2005 9:03:35 am PST #9131 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

I don't want to act, but my God, would I love to do this training.

Take a stage movement class.


Nutty - Mar 21, 2005 9:05:53 am PST #9132 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

This distinction between stage acting and movie acting is interesting. I remember when I was a kid -- or, I guess probably 14-15 -- I saw a talk show where, on a lark, some soap actor stood up and pulled a stranger out of the audience ad did an improv scene with this person. The cameras played along, and then he sat down and went through the footage with the host and explained everything he'd done as he did it. And as he was going along, saying, "I approached her right then to make it more intense, but also to make her back up because she was casting a shadow where she was standing," I realized that I did not have enough active brain cells at any given moment to do that.

I just can't fire that many cylinders at once, you know?

(Soap actors, for the record, don't tend to get retakes or retouching, but do get closeups, so they're sort of a weird hybrid of stage acting and movie acting.)


§ ita § - Mar 21, 2005 9:07:49 am PST #9133 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Soap actors, for the record, don't tend to get retakes or retouching, but do get closeups, so they're sort of a weird hybrid of stage acting and movie acting.

Which probably explains SMG's described gift for finding the light.


Lyra Jane - Mar 21, 2005 9:08:35 am PST #9134 of 10002
Up with the sun

This is an interestong discussion. For me, I can usually feel the difference between A and B, but it's sometimes hard for me to get the in-between stuff Betsy was talking about. And there are some things that are just hard for me, full stop -- in yoga, I have a terrible time telling if my back is arched enough.


Jesse - Mar 21, 2005 9:08:58 am PST #9135 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Matt Damon looked like a truly pathetic overactor in Mystic Pizza, but really it was just the first time he was in a movie, and he didn't get it yet.


Betsy HP - Mar 21, 2005 9:09:56 am PST #9136 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

I realized that I did not have enough active brain cells at any given moment to do that.

Yip.

That's what I am taking out of watching Farscape, is that you need to not only say the words with emotion, you need to move in such a way that the bits of plastic around you are imbued with emotion. That's what fascinates me -- not the playing pretend (which I love), but the amount of intellectual work that has to power the playing pretend in order for it to work.

Like, when I sit down and write, I'm not (mostly) thinking about technique, because there are years of thinking about technique behind me. But the technique is there, and if I stop and think about it, I know why I'm doing what I'm doing.


juliana - Mar 21, 2005 9:10:19 am PST #9137 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Which probably explains SMG's described gift for finding the light.

t techie

Hell, I know a lot of stage actors who still can't find their goddamned light, even when it's a spot. It's beyond me. You're in the light, everything is brighter. You're out of the light, everything is dark.

t /techie


§ ita § - Mar 21, 2005 9:11:55 am PST #9138 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You're in the light, everything is brighter. You're out of the light, everything is dark.

They're not looking at stuff? Everything seems bright enough when they're not in the light, and they only process changes, NSM absolutes (that's me and music, for instance)?


Nutty - Mar 21, 2005 9:15:40 am PST #9139 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Which probably explains SMG's described gift for finding the light.

The soap actors who make it into movies often describe soap acting as "acting boot camp." Short deadlines, ludicrous lines to say, minimal rehearsal, not much hand-holding or reshoots or fixes. When I was watching soaps regularly, I was catching five or ten continuity mistakes a week, and also catching ten more mistakes the actors themselves found a way out of (like, handling a loud baby while saying lines, or finding a missing prop).

the amount of intellectual work that has to power the playing pretend in order for it to work.

Ah, the "smack the puppet" theory. I have to admit, the puppets did become more real every time they were touched. (Also, it was funny.)