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Oz ,'Chosen'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Lyra Jane - Mar 21, 2005 9:08:35 am PST #9134 of 10002
Up with the sun

This is an interestong discussion. For me, I can usually feel the difference between A and B, but it's sometimes hard for me to get the in-between stuff Betsy was talking about. And there are some things that are just hard for me, full stop -- in yoga, I have a terrible time telling if my back is arched enough.


Jesse - Mar 21, 2005 9:08:58 am PST #9135 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Matt Damon looked like a truly pathetic overactor in Mystic Pizza, but really it was just the first time he was in a movie, and he didn't get it yet.


Betsy HP - Mar 21, 2005 9:09:56 am PST #9136 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

I realized that I did not have enough active brain cells at any given moment to do that.

Yip.

That's what I am taking out of watching Farscape, is that you need to not only say the words with emotion, you need to move in such a way that the bits of plastic around you are imbued with emotion. That's what fascinates me -- not the playing pretend (which I love), but the amount of intellectual work that has to power the playing pretend in order for it to work.

Like, when I sit down and write, I'm not (mostly) thinking about technique, because there are years of thinking about technique behind me. But the technique is there, and if I stop and think about it, I know why I'm doing what I'm doing.


juliana - Mar 21, 2005 9:10:19 am PST #9137 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Which probably explains SMG's described gift for finding the light.

t techie

Hell, I know a lot of stage actors who still can't find their goddamned light, even when it's a spot. It's beyond me. You're in the light, everything is brighter. You're out of the light, everything is dark.

t /techie


§ ita § - Mar 21, 2005 9:11:55 am PST #9138 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You're in the light, everything is brighter. You're out of the light, everything is dark.

They're not looking at stuff? Everything seems bright enough when they're not in the light, and they only process changes, NSM absolutes (that's me and music, for instance)?


Nutty - Mar 21, 2005 9:15:40 am PST #9139 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Which probably explains SMG's described gift for finding the light.

The soap actors who make it into movies often describe soap acting as "acting boot camp." Short deadlines, ludicrous lines to say, minimal rehearsal, not much hand-holding or reshoots or fixes. When I was watching soaps regularly, I was catching five or ten continuity mistakes a week, and also catching ten more mistakes the actors themselves found a way out of (like, handling a loud baby while saying lines, or finding a missing prop).

the amount of intellectual work that has to power the playing pretend in order for it to work.

Ah, the "smack the puppet" theory. I have to admit, the puppets did become more real every time they were touched. (Also, it was funny.)


§ ita § - Mar 21, 2005 9:17:36 am PST #9140 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

handling a loud baby while saying lines

I love that. Of course, I'm improv's bitch, but responding well ad hoc to cranky toddlers can make me crush heavily on an actor.


DavidS - Mar 21, 2005 9:17:46 am PST #9141 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Cool stuff on the stage acting technique. JZ's very well schooled in all kinds of stagework and improv, but is the first to admit that she doesn't have the right tools for filmwork.

Verbal instructions simply don't translate to body stuff -- actually, for me, verbal instructions don't translate to anything.

This is the thing that got me all het up about the coach's clinic. It was exciting to see that baseball had a whole deep well of instructional drills designed to move the body and create fundamental muscle memory. There wasn't that much explaining. It was about breaking the complex motions down into simpler components which only got worked individually.

I'm having a little trouble with Emmett because he fields the ball well because of his natural eye-hand coordination, but his technique is actually kind of poor. Without having that fundamental structure in place (footwork, positioning) he's going to make errors on difficult plays that the fundamentals would be able to accomodate. He can't just stab at a hard hit grounder that's coming up on a bad hop. He's got to be positioned properly and able to adjust to the hop. Stuff like that.


Betsy HP - Mar 21, 2005 9:18:06 am PST #9142 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

But carrying them? Always a mistake, at least half-way through season 2. Rygel ALWAYS looks like a ragdoll when somebody carries him from place to place.


juliana - Mar 21, 2005 9:19:39 am PST #9143 of 10002
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Everything seems bright enough when they're not in the light, and they only process changes, NSM absolutes (that's me and music, for instance)?

This is probably true, and I do sympathize with peeps who have a hard time with the light. But it is often a running joke during tech.

I have nothing but respect for soap actors. They work their asses off.