So Mal can't be a hero because he puts causes before lives? I don't think I agree with that.
eta: I can buy Mal not being a hero, I just don't think this is a compelling reason.
This must be what going mad feels like.
Simon ,'Jaynestown'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
ChiKat - Apr 20, 2006 10:54:02 am PDT #8273 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
Topic!Cindy - Apr 20, 2006 10:58:00 am PDT #8274 of 10001
What is even happening?
Refrains from trying to distinguish between 'champion' and 'hero' as that never ends well
tommyrot - Apr 20, 2006 10:58:51 am PDT #8275 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I think Mal realized that since the Alliance and the Operative found out he had River, they were pretty much screwed. They could either turn River over (sending her to her death) or gamble on finding a way out of the situation.
aurelia - Apr 20, 2006 10:59:30 am PDT #8276 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
Refrains from trying to distinguish between 'champion' and 'hero' as that never ends well
Does it involve jewelry?
Volans - Apr 20, 2006 10:59:55 am PDT #8277 of 10001
move out and draw fire
It was the price the crew paid for Mal's use of the Reavers as a weapon.
Interesting. So what price for using River as a weapon? Book? Or none, because River chose to become the weapon? Or did The Alliance pay the price for making RiverWeapon with the loss of men and ships and the newswave about Miranda?
As for the other, TV!Mal put lives before causes. It seemed that he had had an epiphany after the battle of Serenity along those lines. Movie!Mal did put the cause before the lives.
tommyrot - Apr 20, 2006 11:00:44 am PDT #8278 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Refrains from trying to distinguish between 'champion' and 'hero' as that never ends well
One is needed by Bonnie Tyler, the other eats Wheaties....
Dana - Apr 20, 2006 11:07:32 am PDT #8279 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Movie!Mal did put the cause before the lives.
I think Movie!Mal finally found another cause he could privilege that highly.
At a con I was at recently, we had a really interesting panel about Mal, and the way in which you could view the other characters as possessing or representing things Mal had lost. So you have Book and his faith, Wash and his humor, Kaylee and her optimism, etc.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 20, 2006 11:08:34 am PDT #8280 of 10001
What is even happening?
Does it involve jewelry?
Yes, but not the Liz Taylor stuff. Claddagh rings.
tommyrot - Apr 20, 2006 11:09:04 am PDT #8281 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
At a con I was at recently, we had a really interesting panel about Mal, and the way in which you could view the other characters as possessing or representing things Mal had lost. So you have Book and his faith, Wash and his humor, Kaylee and her optimism, etc.
Simon and River and their hodgeberries....
WindSparrow - Apr 20, 2006 11:15:00 am PDT #8282 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
Simon and River and their hodgeberries....
sporfle.