who said that Wash's was a noble death. He lost control of his ship, and was forced to crash it, while trying to save his crew from damage. An engine getting torn off is nothing compared to saving his family, and Wash brought it down with everyone intact.

I disagree with this. I think Wash's life was noble. He saved the ship and he saved his family. And then he died. His death accomplished nothing. It was utterly pointless. Which is the kind of 'verse it is. And I loved it as it ripped my heart out and stomped on it.

If you want to hear a track of the music from the film:

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Click on the "Listen to the Show" link. This will bring the show up in a new window. It's the movie show from BBC Radio 1. It starts with a music track or two, and then they have a listener review of Serenity, which is good as the listener has never seen Firefly. Then they play a track from the soundtrack.

There is then a topical (to this board) bit from the presenter, who may have had some of the more hardcore Browncoats [ is there anyone else who just can't bring themselves to describe themselves thus? ] giving him some grief over a throw-away line in his review of the film.

And if you'd like to hear some good old fashioned plummy BBC "couldn't be more English if we tried" interviewer talking to Joss:

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Right, I'm about done with my wine, so I bid you goodnight. Or good afternoon - whatever [ damn the internet and it's ignorance of time zones ].

Did anyone else think that the instrumental version of the theme song over the end credits sounded a bit....

Stairway to Heaven-y?

Yeah, the Whedonesquers are having a cow.

We're having a cow? Heh. It's civil war over at the official movie site forums. Not pleasant at all.

Serenity was a noble effort, Joss and the cast did their best, so did the fans. And it got critically acclaimed as well. Just wasn't to be at the box office, alas.

Saying that, the international market could kick off big style. Probably.

I'm a little confused. It's a genre film and it was cheap to make. I didn't think they expected huge BO returns--just moderate--am I right? It's not a $100 million dollar movie.

And it's the entire industry (if we're talking movie going-revenue) that's in the shitter right now so I don't see wherefore the huge moans and groans about how poorly the film is doing money-wise.

The film is going to more than recoup the costs it took to make it AND it got critical acclaim. I hate to see people moaning its early death.

Well, the rumor had been that Universal wanted it to make $15M its opening weekend, which it didn't. The other rumor was that it needed $80M (worldwide, I believe) to get a sequel greenlit. So I think people are disappointed that there haven't been huge numbers that would make sequels a foregone conclusion.

Saw Serenity and enjoyed it muchly.

What really remained with me were the little directorial flourishes that I think mark Whedon for greatness. Like the push-in on River putting a gun to her head when she suggests committing suicide to Simon. Or the camera slowly coming into focus on Zoe's face, after Jayne uses Serenity Valley to make a point about Mal's leadership skills.

Also, I wasn't down with the explanation for the Reavers 'cause it guts the thematic content of 'Bushwacked' and that was the part of the episode I admired most.

Well, that makes sense. But I wasn't planting my hopes on a sequel. It would have been nice, sure. I just think that after spending six months reading about how people AREN'T going to the theatre anymore and the reasons behind it and the horrible BO revenues, I'm not surprised.

But then I look and see that someone made DOOM into a film starring THE ROCK and go back to thinking the world is an unjust place.

I think a lot of fans wanted to believe it was going to be a huge blockbuster success that would spawn several sequels and/or a return to the small screen.

As for all the press about this crisis at the box office, John August had a very interesting entry about the “slump.”

As for all the press about this crisis at the box office, John August had a very interesting entry about the “slump.”

I love this part:

Journalist: “Would you say the slump was caused because the movies were awful?”

Executive: “Umm, maybe. I guess.”

Journalist: “No, seriously. Say it.”

I didn't think that Serenity sucked. I think that it might not have a broad enough appeal to reach the numbers that it needs to be considered a blockbuster event. And that's too bad.